One of few fields where AI is very welcome
Maybe.. apple had a lot of backlash using AI to detect CSAM.
Wasn’t the backlash due to the fact that they were running detection on device against your private library?
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#12If I was a tech billionaire, and there was so much uploading of stuff so bad, that it was giving my employee/contractors PTSD, I think I'd find a way to stop the perpetrators. (I'm not saying that I'd assemble a high-speed yacht full of commandos, who travel around the world, righting wrongs when no one else can. Though that would be more compelling content than most streaming video episodes right now. So you could o…
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#14If I was a tech billionaire, and there was so much uploading of stuff so bad, that it was giving my employee/contractors PTSD, I think I'd find a way to stop the perpetrators. (I'm not saying that I'd assemble a high-speed yacht full of commandos, who travel around the world, righting wrongs when no one else can. Though that would be more compelling content than most streaming video episodes right now. So you could o…
How else would you stop the perpetrators?
Large scale and super sick perpetrators exist (as compared to small scale ones who do mildly sick stuff) because Facebook is a global network and there is a benefit to operating on such a large platform. The sicker you are, while getting away with it, the more reward you get.
Switch to a federated social systems like Mastodon, with only a few thousand or ten thousand users per instance, and perpetrators will never be able to grow too large. Easy for the moderators to shut stuff down very quickly.
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#15One of few fields where AI is very welcome
Maybe.. apple had a lot of backlash using AI to detect CSAM.
No, they had backlash against using AI on devices they don’t own to report said devices to police for having illegal files on them. There was no technical measure to ensure that the devices being searched were only being searched for CSAM, as the system can be used to search for any type of images chosen by Apple or the state. (Also, with the advent of GenAI, CSAM has been redefined to include generated imagery that does not contain any of {children, sex, abuse}.)
That’s a very very different issue.
I support big tech using AI models running on their own servers to detect CSAM on their own servers.
I do not support big tech searching devices they do not own in violation of the wishes of the owners of those devices, simply because the police would prefer it that way.
It is especially telling that iCloud Photos is not end to end encrypted (and uploads plaintext file content hashes even when optional e2ee is enabled) so Apple can and does scan 99.99%+ of the photos on everyone’s iPhones serverside already.
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#16Good! I hope they get every penny owed. It's an awful job and outsourcing if to jurisdictions without protection was naked harm maximization.
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#17If I was a tech billionaire, and there was so much uploading of stuff so bad, that it was giving my employee/contractors PTSD, I think I'd find a way to stop the perpetrators. (I'm not saying that I'd assemble a high-speed yacht full of commandos, who travel around the world, righting wrongs when no one else can. Though that would be more compelling content than most streaming video episodes right now. So you could o…
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You have no idea what content is being discussed here if you even think about bringing identity politics into this topic.
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#18Perhaps if looking at pictures of disturbing things on the internet gives you PTSD than this isn’t the kind of job for you?
Not everyone can be a forensic investigator or coroner, too.
I know lots of people who can and do look at horrible pictures on the internet and have been doing so for 20+ years with no ill effects.
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#19If I was a tech billionaire, and there was so much uploading of stuff so bad, that it was giving my employee/contractors PTSD, I think I'd find a way to stop the perpetrators. (I'm not saying that I'd assemble a high-speed yacht full of commandos, who travel around the world, righting wrongs when no one else can. Though that would be more compelling content than most streaming video episodes right now. So you could o…
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"More than 140 Facebook content moderators have been diagnosed with severe post-traumatic stress disorder caused by exposure to graphic social media content including murders, suicides, child sexual abuse and terrorism."
What part here are you suggesting is similar to seeing two men kissing?
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#20If I was a tech billionaire, and there was so much uploading of stuff so bad, that it was giving my employee/contractors PTSD, I think I'd find a way to stop the perpetrators. (I'm not saying that I'd assemble a high-speed yacht full of commandos, who travel around the world, righting wrongs when no one else can. Though that would be more compelling content than most streaming video episodes right now. So you could o…
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In this context, this is dangerously close to asserting "people are only outraged about CSAM because they're told to be." I don't think that's what you mean.