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US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by talldayo »

dylan604 wrote: post #40
nico wrote: post #5

> "Surveillance companies should be on notice that illegal spying will not be tolerated." That is kinda funny, although sad at the same time On the flip side, I guess that means META allows WhatsApp users being only “legally spied” on

Isn't that obvious though? Meta wants exclusive spying rights to its users. You spying on users with Meta's products is not allowed. If you want to spy on your users, build an app that's so popular billions of people sign up willingly to allow you to spy on them. Have you no decency?

> Meta wants exclusive spying rights

You're allowed to say "The NSA", we're all adults here. No need to speak in euphemisms.

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by layer8 »

alecco wrote: post #27

Aaaaand it's flagged out of the front page. @dang, so early in the day this is obviously some coordinated manipulation. 31. 206 points 9 hours ago US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp (reuters.com) 22. 37 points 8 hours ago My Pal, the Ancient Philosopher (nautil.us) 15. 4 points 4 hours ago Testing for Thermal Issues Becomes More Difficult (semiengineering.com) 18. 11 points…

“@dang” doesn’t do anything. Email hn@ycombinator.com.

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by ignoramous »

ilbeeper wrote: post #45
ignoramous wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> send drones to kill terrorists The part that you miss is, are they only killing "terrorists" extrajudicially? To take that propaganda at its face value is to ask, what else could they be killing brown people for, if not terrorism?

I didn't say if I think that drone killing is justified or not, since I have no opinion on that - I don't know enough to form an opinion. I only say that since the government have the right to send killing drone it doesn't make sense to raise pitchforks against phone hacking

> I have no opinion ... I don't know enough to form an opinion.

Why speak in hypotheticals supporting some phantom opinion? Concern trolling is even worse.

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by ilbeeper »

ignoramous wrote: post #54
ilbeeper wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say if I think that drone killing is justified or not, since I have no opinion on that - I don't know enough to form an opinion. I only say that since the government have the right to send killing drone it doesn't make sense to raise pitchforks against phone hacking

> I have no opinion ... I don't know enough to form an opinion. Why speak in hypotheticals supporting some phantom opinion? Concern trolling is even worse.

It is not hypothetical, the fact is that killing drones are used in practice, and it just doesn't make sense to oppose lesser measures that are being used without judgement when killing is allowed.

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by stonesthrowaway »

alecco wrote: post #27

Aaaaand it's flagged out of the front page. @dang, so early in the day this is obviously some coordinated manipulation. 31. 206 points 9 hours ago US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp (reuters.com) 22. 37 points 8 hours ago My Pal, the Ancient Philosopher (nautil.us) 15. 4 points 4 hours ago Testing for Thermal Issues Becomes More Difficult (semiengineering.com) 18. 11 points…

I'm shocked! But don't worry, I'm sure the nytimes, wsj, ap, etc will run hit pieces on this outrageous behavior by israel.

Re: US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

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Post by wslh »

talldayo wrote: post #48
wslh wrote: post #39

There are many other companies beyond NSO Group, if I were a journalist I would write a more comprehensive list of them and educate about this whole "industry".

NSO Group is unique in that they are entirely sheltered from (largely due) criticism by their government, creating an unaccountable and injust basis of relations between the United States and Israel that many readers are concerned by. There simply aren't any other comparably corrupt "cybersecurity" outfits in the world. Kinda similar to how the IDF has never been charged with war crimes despite several of their servi…

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