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Ask HN: Do you backup your Emails?

#1
I wonder if its just me or other people feel the urge as well to backup their emails. I feel oddly attached to my older emails and have the fear of loosing something important which might hide in my mail archives.

Also I don't necessarily trust some of my email providers (nor my self hosted one) and soonish have to clear one out because I run out of storage.

So what tools are you using to backup your emails? Is there a service which takes care of this automatically?

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#2
Yeah. Email server's whole filesystem gets synced to my backup server, and the mbox files or whatever are in there somewhere.

> what tools are you using to backup your emails?

rsync and btrfs snapshots

> Is there a service which takes care of this automatically?

Cron?

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#3
My email provider ought to have its own backups for their own service-continuity. (IMAP in this case, but the picture looks very similar for POP.)

Meanwhile, my desktop e-mail client (Thunderbird) has its own local files which are captured by a consumer online-backup solution (e.g. Backblaze) along with other documents, photos, etc. That means both local-copies of server mail, and also items which have been perma-downloaded into mailboxes and purged from the server.

In a way, my biggest worry is not backup-coverage of the bytes per se, but potential archeological issues when it comes to arcane mailbox formats. (My second-biggest worry is that my organization is terrible and Inbox keeps growing.)

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#4
I'm using lieer and mujmap to sync my Gmail and Fastmail accounts to a local notmuch mail storage on top of ZFS pool. That ZFS pool is in turn replicated off site.

I use neomutt to access my archive over SSH. And notmuch is very fast at searching all of my emails.

* https://github.com/gauteh/lieer

* https://github.com/elizagamedev/mujmap

* https://notmuchmail.org/

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#6
I just use thunderbird with imap and copy the whole thunderbird folder to a new device when I want to use email there.

That being said, I started using email about twenty years ago and I probably have looked at past emails maybe a dozen times. The vast majority I never look at again.

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#8

No. Yolo. (Also, in the past 20 years I never needed to find any personal email that's older than a week, so I'm not terribly concerned about the effect of dataloss.)

My counter point is that in 20 years, I've needed to find old emails probably about 100 times.

I have almost every email of my life, so it's easy to find them.

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#9
Yes. In Gmail I set up a label for the year which is added to every email. Then I download them periodically because Takeout lets you choose just a label, so I only end up with a years worth max. I have emails going back to the 90s. Why not?

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#10
Do you backup your Emails?

Yes. I have a combination of self hosted email and a vendor email provider. I access both with IMAPS. I pull down the emails with Thunderbird and never leave them on the server. I back up the local Thunderbird data folder locally then back it up to multiple encrypted SSD/NVME.

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