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Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Post by kasey_junk »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #195
kasey_junk wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More of gen z are home owners than previous generations at that age[0], real wages are increasing for the lower and middle class for the first time since 1970[1]. More people are leaving the workforce than anytime in history, creating high paying trade job openings at an unprecedented rate[2]. Health care costs are growing slower now than any prior decade[3]. Every generation has challenges and benefits. Framing the…

[0] needs to breakout what proportion of the homeowners received help from parents, either via free rent or cash.

[0] in the parent comment needs to note most of the increase comes from older people living and staying in their houses longer rather than dying, moving to facilities or in with family.

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Post by DavidPiper »

dag11 wrote: post #185
deadbabe wrote: post #180

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I think the eyebrow raise is due to the fact that nobody cool uses Snapchat anymore. It’s like Facebook now.

For millenials and older gen z yeah, but it's my understanding (and my complete surprise as a millenial) that snapchat is actually big again amongst actual children. Can anyone who better knows the reality here chime in?

Yeah one of my younger brothers falls into this category, his Snapchat streaks have been going for years - from middle school to mid-university so far, and that's not an exaggeration.

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Post by Uehreka »

kasey_junk wrote: post #192
_qbxi wrote: post #53

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First-time home owners have increased in age[0], the middle class is shrinking[1], education costs have vastly outpaced inflation[2] as have medical costs[3]. Perhaps the generalized fear is not so much about "coddling", but concrete realities. I do not envy them. [0] https://www.axios.com/2023/11/20/american-housing-market-old... [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/20/how-the-a... [2] https://www.usn…

More of gen z are home owners than previous generations at that age[0], real wages are increasing for the lower and middle class for the first time since 1970[1]. More people are leaving the workforce than anytime in history, creating high paying trade job openings at an unprecedented rate[2]. Health care costs are growing slower now than any prior decade[3]. Every generation has challenges and benefits. Framing the…

> More of gen z are home owners than previous generations at that age[0]

If you’re going to make a claim this bold and this counter to the prevailing narrative, you’re gonna need to cite a better source than an outbrain-riddled webpage that tells me to “watch our video to find the lede we buried”. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but extraordinary claims require good sourcing and explanation.

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Post by at-w »

D-Coder wrote: post #133

Oddball theory: COVID hit credulous / non-technical people harder, because they refused to believe in it and didn't take precautions. So a lot of people who might have turned to drugs died for an entirely unrelated reason, leaving teens who are "smart" enough to avoid drugs. ("Smart" here is not intended to mean just IQ.)

From 2020-2024, the UN recorded ~17,000 deaths among children in all measured countries combined. The share of that that is among older children/teens and in developed countries like the US is vanishingly small.

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Post by toast0 »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #148
MarcelOlsz wrote: post #122

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All I want in life is a good union for software. Role finished this week, who needs me next week? Off I go.

How would a union help you move between roles? Or are you saying the opposite.

Most professional sports players are unionized and they move around all the time. :P

I hope we get a union with a draft and such.

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Post by kasey_junk »

Uehreka wrote: post #203
kasey_junk wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More of gen z are home owners than previous generations at that age[0], real wages are increasing for the lower and middle class for the first time since 1970[1]. More people are leaving the workforce than anytime in history, creating high paying trade job openings at an unprecedented rate[2]. Health care costs are growing slower now than any prior decade[3]. Every generation has challenges and benefits. Framing the…

> More of gen z are home owners than previous generations at that age[0] If you’re going to make a claim this bold and this counter to the prevailing narrative, you’re gonna need to cite a better source than an outbrain-riddled webpage that tells me to “watch our video to find the lede we buried”. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but extraordinary claims require good sourcing and explanation.

Here is the underlying dataset https://www.ipums.org/projects/ipums-cps/d030.V11.0

Redfin did the analysis quoted https://www.redfin.com/news/homeownership-rate-by-generation...

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Post by CamelCaseName »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #116

Ample bodycam footage of people on drugs, or overdosing is widely available. I’d like to imagine that many people’s first exposure to drugs is seeing the terrifying things it leads them to do.

Is there? LiveLeak and it's ilk are gone now

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Post by notyourwork »

_qbxi wrote: post #53
oortoo wrote: post #18

Another aspect here I think is the generalized fear and anxiety present in young people. Having spoken to some family members in the 15-18 age bracket, the message they seem to be receiving is that they are without a future... they won't be buying homes, they won't be getting high paying jobs, and that the system is not going to work in their favor. I think people of this age are uniquely feeling mortal and vulnerabl…

First-time home owners have increased in age[0], the middle class is shrinking[1], education costs have vastly outpaced inflation[2] as have medical costs[3]. Perhaps the generalized fear is not so much about "coddling", but concrete realities. I do not envy them. [0] https://www.axios.com/2023/11/20/american-housing-market-old... [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/04/20/how-the-a... [2] https://www.usn…

Society hasn’t setup future society to be better. It’s a grab and go everywhere you look and it’s tiring. This is coming from a millennial with a good tech job. I cannot imagine how younger generations feel.

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Post by jpcom »

Henchman21 wrote: post #182
mmooss wrote: post #114

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> Teens aren't ... having sex. Nor are people in their 20s (that is, both groups are having much less sex). That is the most worrying thing to me. People are not even engaging in the most fundamental, unavoidable, pleasurable human drive. They seem very much like traumatized people, on a massive scale, just trying to survive.

I think we all realize deep down there are too many humans on this planet.

We can comfortably host 100B or more on this beautiful planet. Just gotta be strategic about it.

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Post by noobermin »

oortoo wrote: post #18

Another aspect here I think is the generalized fear and anxiety present in young people. Having spoken to some family members in the 15-18 age bracket, the message they seem to be receiving is that they are without a future... they won't be buying homes, they won't be getting high paying jobs, and that the system is not going to work in their favor. I think people of this age are uniquely feeling mortal and vulnerabl…

Today on HN, Jonathan Haidt afficionados lament the decline of use of addictive, life ruining, hard drugs. Something about "formative experiences." I think it's a good thing kids don't do hard drugs today, information addiction is a thing may be but going back to hard drugs isn't a good thing.
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