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Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Teens aren't doing drugs, smoking, drinking, or having sex. And the suicide rate has never been higher.

> Teens aren't ... having sex. Nor are people in their 20s (that is, both groups are having much less sex). That is the most worrying thing to me. People are not even engaging in the most fundamental, unavoidable, pleasurable human drive. They seem very much like traumatized people, on a massive scale, just trying to survive.

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Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Teens aren't doing drugs, smoking, drinking, or having sex. And the suicide rate has never been higher.

I've had is persisting thought that, we as a society have been delaying adulthood, thus extending childhood, with each decade for a while. And we've now pushed it so far that the current cohort of teens simply are effectively young children on a social/emotion perspective making them unprepared to handle the stresses their age is exposing them to.

> have been delaying adulthood

If you have kids, do you see them as less mature than how you perceived yourself at their age ?

TBH I feel the opposite: current kids have a lot more to deal with, and are expected to be much much more down to earth than a few decades ago. The most basic things: a single post on an SNS can stick with them for the rest of their life, yet we moved half of our social life online.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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If everyone is switching from drugs to social media, then that's progress. Twitter and Facebook won't harm your body. They're also free, so your habit will never make you poor and desperate. This kind of revolution in improving our health makes me proud to work in the tech industry. The worst that can happen is you'll feel sad if people bully you online, but that's the fault of people, not the technology. We can impr…

I strongly disagree with this. Social media companies are incredibly valuable specifically because they are effective at getting people to spend their money on things they otherwise wouldn't have. Depression, suicide, and other serious mental health disorders are strongly linked with social media use. Is that better than more kids drinking and smoking pot? I don't know, it's complicated. It's certainly not clearly be…

Drug addicts sell their children (in the worst way) for the next hit. It's not the same.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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I've had is persisting thought that, we as a society have been delaying adulthood, thus extending childhood, with each decade for a while. And we've now pushed it so far that the current cohort of teens simply are effectively young children on a social/emotion perspective making them unprepared to handle the stresses their age is exposing them to.

I would agree that modern childhood is protracted to what is perhaps a damaging extent, but would also argue that the stresses and anxieties of everyday life are more constant and overbearing than the human psyche is equipped to handle. It’s mot healthy for well-adjusted adults either. We’re built for dangers and stresses that come in relatively short bursts, not those that are without end.

In 1924 you would expect to be a child in a family of 5 with two dying before they hit their majority.

We are simply blind to how much even the relatively recent past sucked.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Ample bodycam footage of people on drugs, or overdosing is widely available. I’d like to imagine that many people’s first exposure to drugs is seeing the terrifying things it leads them to do.

There’s regular news articles about people straight up dying from dodgy pills. Why would you take that risk. There is no way to safely use drugs when a single pill could kill you instantly.

not that you are wrong but life without risk is what today’s kids are mostly experiencing and it is no way to live. statistically based on number of pills consumed your chances of straight-up dying are very low. drug dealers do not want to kill you any more than Elon selling you a Tesla without brakes. we do thousands of inherently dangerous things all the time (e.g. each time you fly you should know that chances are your aircraft may have been maintained / repaired in any of the 900 facilities outside of the United States and such work is performed by people making less money per day than you spend on pumpkin spice latte… and yet we fly…) statistically though, your chances of dying from a dodgy pill are very very low

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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You still need crypto, no?

Nope. Don't even need the dark web. All you need is social media. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/12/who-needs-the-da...

I don't see anywhere how they actually buy the drug.

Or do teenagers get legal access to credit cards in the US ?

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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> you typically need to be unsupervised with friends to get into drugs, something teenagers no longer have access to compared to 10-15 years ago. They don't? I'm pretty sure I saw unsupervised teens hanging out at a mall even just a few days ago.

Not to sound snarky, but please consider interpreting comments like these as making a statement about rate rather than an absolute binary.

Right back at you. I was also commenting on rate rather than saying that I saw one or 2 in the last 10-15 years.

Not all locations are the same though, so maybe there has been a noticeable decrease where you're at. Personally, I think I've felt an increase if anything.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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I strongly disagree with this. Social media companies are incredibly valuable specifically because they are effective at getting people to spend their money on things they otherwise wouldn't have. Depression, suicide, and other serious mental health disorders are strongly linked with social media use. Is that better than more kids drinking and smoking pot? I don't know, it's complicated. It's certainly not clearly be…

Drug addicts sell their children (in the worst way) for the next hit. It's not the same.

And likewise child porn trade/child trafficking is a nagging problem on social media platforms. Stereotyping is rarely illuminating.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Nope. Don't even need the dark web. All you need is social media. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/12/who-needs-the-da...

I don't see anywhere how they actually buy the drug. Or do teenagers get legal access to credit cards in the US ?

Teenagers can fairly easily have credit cards in the US and Canada. I had my first credit card at 15. They can also have debit cards from childhood.

Re: Decline in teen drug use continues, surprising experts

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Fentanyl contamination/adulteration seems like a sufficient reason to not use any street drug active in greater than microgram quantities. (If I were a parent, I'd probably prefer to give "good" drugs to a kid who was unavoidably going to do them vs. trust their friends/etc. to find safe ones, although there's obviously horrible moral hazard there. I have no idea what the right answer is.)
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