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Re: OpenAI O3 breakthrough high score on ARC-AGI-PUB

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It doesn't need to be general intelligence or perfectly map to human intelligence. All it needs to be is useful. Reading constant comments about LLMs can't be general intelligence or lack reasoning etc, to me seems like people witnessing the airplane and complaining that it isn't "real flying" because it isn't a bird flapping its wings (a large portion of the population held that point of view back then). It doesn't…

I don't think many informed people doubt the utility of LLMs at this point. The potential of human-like AGI has profound implications far beyond utility models, which is why people are so eager to bring it up. A true human-like AGI basically means that most intellectual/white collar work will not be needed, and probably manual labor before too long as well. Huge huge implications for humanity, e.g. how does an econom…

> Huge huge implications for humanity, e.g. how does an economy and society even work without workers?

I don't think those that create AI care about that. They just to come out on top before someone else does.

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I feel like AI is already changing how we work and live - I've been using it myself for a lot of my development work. Though, what I'm really concerned about is what happens when it gets smart enough to do pretty much everything better (or even close) than humans can. We're talking about a huge shift where first knowledge workers get automated, then physical work too. The thing is, our whole society is built around p…

A possibility is a coalition: of people who refuse to use AI and who refuse to do business with those who use AI. If the coalition grows large enough, AI can be stopped by economic attrition.

Re: OpenAI O3 breakthrough high score on ARC-AGI-PUB

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Complete aside here: I used to do work with amputees and prosthetics. There is a standardized test (and I just cannot remember the name) that fits in a briefcase. It's used for measuring the level of damage to the upper limbs and for prosthetic grading. Basically, it's got the dumbest and simplest things in it. Stuff like a lock and key, a glass of water and jug, common units of currency, a zipper, etc. It tests if y…

Despite lake of fearsome teeth or claws, humans are way op due to brain, hand dexterity, and balance.

Re: OpenAI O3 breakthrough high score on ARC-AGI-PUB

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My initial impression: it's very impressive and very exciting. My skeptical impression: it's complete hubris to conflate ARC or any benchmark with truly general intelligence. I know my skepticism here is identical to moving goalposts. More and more I am shifting my personal understanding of general intelligence as a phenomenon we will only ever be able to identify with the benefit of substantial retrospect. As it is…

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Re: OpenAI O3 breakthrough high score on ARC-AGI-PUB

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Seriously, programming as a profession will end soon. Let's not kid us anymore. Time to jump the ship.

Why specifically programming? I think every knowledge profession is at risk, or at the very minimum suspect to a huge transformation. Doctors, analysts, lawyers, etc.

Re: OpenAI O3 breakthrough high score on ARC-AGI-PUB

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It is not exactly AGI but huge step toward it. I would expect this step in 2028-2030. I cant really understand why people are happy with it, this technology is so dangerous that can disrupt whole society. It's neither like smartphone nor internet. What will happen to 3rd world countries. Lots of unsolved questions and world is not prepared for such a change. Lots of people will lose their jobs I am not even mentionin…

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Re: OpenAI O3 breakthrough high score on ARC-AGI-PUB

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Congratulations to Francois Chollet on making the most interesting and challenging LLM benchmark so far. A lot of people have criticized ARC as not being relevant or indicative of true reasoning, but I think it was exactly the right thing. The fact that scaled reasoning models are finally showing progress on ARC proves that what it measures really is relevant and important for reasoning. It's obvious to everyone that…

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