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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by chmod775 »

joshuahaglund wrote: post #317
neilv wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the most useful advice: call the police non-emergency number, explain concisely, and ask them what to do. A bunch of the other suggestions, here on HN Streetwise ProTips, can get self and/or friends beaten, stabbed, and/or arrested.

IDK where you live but where I am, unless it's an actively life threatening emergency, the Police will say they're busy. I watched a drunk driver try to drive away after smashing into a parked car, ripping a wheel off the parked car. The drunk driver kept trying to start his car to get away. People called the police but they said they're busy. Fortunately his car was totaled and wouldn't start either. Over an hour la…

> IDK where you live but where I am, unless it's an actively life threatening emergency, the Police will say they're busy.

Where I live the basic law/constitution establishes a protection duty of its citizens by the state (this includes their property). The police is one of the ways the state takes care of this duty. If the state is grossly negligent in this or even does nothing at all, the state may very well be on the hook to make the injured party whole. This responsibility is passed down and carried by individual police officers, and there have been cases of police officers being personally convicted of causing bodily harm for not dispatching a unit after a request for aid (despite them not personally swinging any punches)[1].

Generally you'll have police show up for near anything if they can.

[1] https://www.wz.de/panorama/nach-notruf-keine-streife-geschic...

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by mati365 »

satonakamoto wrote: post #414

My $2 version: https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01LBluO... https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01qLKoY... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/4611686018427384736/O1CN0... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/4611686018427381970/O1CN0...

That white clock looks cool. What's the name?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by valleyer »

nox101 wrote: post #387
valleyer wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're assuming independence, almost certainly incorrectly.

meaning? My point isn't that those number are exact. My point is 2% chance per year expands to a larger number over many years. So saying "most people have experienced theft" many not be that far off. 2% is 1 in 50 but 55% is more than 1 in 2. My personal experience is would be 10 or 11 in 55yrs depending on whether an attempt counts bike, bike, bike, car radio, car radio, car radio, car, car radio, bike, camera/dash…

For most people, the chance they are a victim of theft (VOT) in year 1 is correlated to the chance they are a VOT in year 2. So the probability that they are a VOT at least once in those two years is NOT simply (1 - (1 - 2%)^2). That formula only works when the two events are independent, like two coin flips.

As an obviously extreme example, imagine a world where 98% the people live in zero-crime areas, and the rest live in places where they are robbed annually.

In such a world, the percentage of people who were a VOT in a single year would be 2%, and it would not rise as you broadened to multiple years. (The same 2% of people would be targeted over and over.)

This is all just a roundabout way of stating the unfortunate fact that some people live in bad areas.

I'm sorry to hear about your experience.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by MathMonkeyMan »

happyopossum wrote: post #329
outworlder wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Really, at some time we need to stop glorifying cowardice and reclaim a little bit of dignity. And getting into a physical fight with real injury potential because of an item? If it is a cheap thing it is not worth it. If it is more expensive usually the law is on your side. Either way, there's no need for physical confrontation. > the reason he resort to this kind of criminal activity is preciselly because he is n…

> Either way, there's no need for physical confrontation. Nahh, you just outsource your physical confrontation to a cop. You still belief in confrontation for resolving the issues, you’re just being a coward and not doing it yourself.

Which physical confrontations you handle yourself and which ones you outsource to police is a difficult question. The problem is not so much how you answer the question, but how many people in a large society will choose the "wrong" one.

And I think it's better not to refer to strangers on the internet as cowards. How would you feel if somebody responded to your opinion by calling you a name?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by ra120271 »

satonakamoto wrote: post #414

My $2 version: https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01LBluO... https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01qLKoY... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/4611686018427384736/O1CN0... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/4611686018427381970/O1CN0...

is that a purchasable product? link? Thank you in advance!

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by madchinchilla »

mati365 wrote: post #422
satonakamoto wrote: post #414

My $2 version: https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01LBluO... https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01qLKoY... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/4611686018427384736/O1CN0... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/4611686018427381970/O1CN0...

That white clock looks cool. What's the name?

Looks like Xiaomi Mi Temperature and Humidity Monitor Pro.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by KaiserPro »

jmull wrote: post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

> Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained?

because life gets in the way. You have a bunch of batteries and forget where you put them, or you walk inside and get distracted.

I have a tag in my suitcase, which is/has run out of battery. I dont use it that often, so I should really replace it. but I have forgotten.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by fellerts »

varenc wrote: post #350

If you could disable the public key rotation on the AirTag, presumably you could greatly extend its battery life at the cost of your own privacy. When your battery gets low, Apple warns that "privacy protection is temporarily adjusted, AirTag may be traceable over Bluetooth". Wish I could enable this behavior in certain situations to extend the life. (Or hook up an oversized external battery like this one, but tune t…

I doubt that key rotation is a significant contributor to energy use. Energy spent doing RF (transmitting) plus energy spent sleeping will account for over 90 % of the energy use.

Source: I'm in a similar industry

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by tecleandor »

mati365 wrote: post #422
satonakamoto wrote: post #414

My $2 version: https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01LBluO... https://img.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/278427340/O1CN01qLKoY... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i4/4611686018427384736/O1CN0... https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/4611686018427381970/O1CN0...

That white clock looks cool. What's the name?

Just in case you're looking for the exact model, it's: LYWSD02MMC

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by piyuv »

If you’re the type of person who forgets to change a battery every year, in spite of Find My app warning you a couple of times, most likely you’ll forget to change it in a decade too
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