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The era of open voice assistants

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Re: The era of open voice assistants

#31

Though a separate hardware helps - I believe voice and automation can be integrated more seamlessly to our existing devices (phones/laptops) with high compute built in. Llama and whisper are already public so that should help innovation in this area.

last i checked open source whisper does not support streaming or diarization out of the box. you really need both for a good voice assistant experience

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#32

Can someone describe the use case here? I don't quite understand what its purpose is. Is this a fully-private, open source alternative to Alexa, that by definition requires a CPU locally to run ? Is the device supposed to be the nerve center of IoT devices ? Can it access the Wifi to do web crawls on command (music, google, etc)?

The nerve center would be your Home Assistant instance, which is not this device. You can run Home Assistant on whatever hardware you like, including options sold by Nabu Casa.

This device provides the microphone, speaker, and WiFi to do wake-word detection, capture your input, send it off to your HA instance, and reply to you with HA’s processed response. Whether your HA instance phones out to the internet to produce the response is up to you and how you’ve configured it.

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#33
post #7

I'm actually really excited for this! I noticed recently there weren't any good open source hardware projects for voice assistants with a focus on privacy. There's another project I've been thinking about where I think the privacy aspect is Important, and figuring out a good hardware stack has been a Process. The project I want to work on isn't exactly a voice assistant, but same ultimate hardware requirements Someth…

A group buy for an existing product makes sense. Want to buy a 24TB Western Digital hard drive? It’s $350. But if you and your 1000 closest friends get together the price can be $275.

But for a first time unknown product? You get a lot fewer interested parties. Lots of people want to wait for tech reviews and blog posts before committing to it. And group buys being the only way to get them means availability will be inconsistent for the foreseeable future. I don’t want one voice assistant. I want 5-20, one for every space in my house. But I am not prepared to commit to 20 devices of a first run and I am not prepared to buy one and hope I’ll get the opportunity to buy more later if it doesn’t flop. Stability of the supply chain is an important signal to consumers that the device won’t be abandoned.

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#34
post #22

Here's what I'm looking for in a voice assistant: - Full privacy: nothing goes to the "cloud" - Non-shitty microphones and processing: i want to be able to be heard without having to yell, repeat, or correct - No wake words: it should listen to everything, process it, and understand when it's being addressed. Since everything is private and local, this is now doable - Conversational: it should understand when I finis…

> No wake words: it should listen to everything, process it, and understand when it's being addressed Even humans struggle with this one - that's what names are for!

Yeah, I’m having a hard time imagining how no-wake-word could work in practice.

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#35
post #22

Here's what I'm looking for in a voice assistant: - Full privacy: nothing goes to the "cloud" - Non-shitty microphones and processing: i want to be able to be heard without having to yell, repeat, or correct - No wake words: it should listen to everything, process it, and understand when it's being addressed. Since everything is private and local, this is now doable - Conversational: it should understand when I finis…

How much are you willing to pay though? Full privacy means powerful enough hardware to do everything else on the list on-device and _quickly_. I don't know that most people have the budget for that

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#36
post #7

I'm actually really excited for this! I noticed recently there weren't any good open source hardware projects for voice assistants with a focus on privacy. There's another project I've been thinking about where I think the privacy aspect is Important, and figuring out a good hardware stack has been a Process. The project I want to work on isn't exactly a voice assistant, but same ultimate hardware requirements Someth…

A group buy for an existing product makes sense. Want to buy a 24TB Western Digital hard drive? It’s $350. But if you and your 1000 closest friends get together the price can be $275. But for a first time unknown product? You get a lot fewer interested parties. Lots of people want to wait for tech reviews and blog posts before committing to it. And group buys being the only way to get them means availability will be…

> I am not prepared to buy one and hope I’ll get the opportunity to buy more later

As long as this thing works and there's demand for it, I doubt we'll ever run out of people willing to connect an XU316 and some mics to an ESP32-S3 and sell it to you with HA's open source firmware flashed to it, whether or not HA themselves are still willing to.

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#38
It's too bad it's sold out everywhere. I've tried the ESP32 projects (little cube guy) for voice assistants in HA but it's mic/speaker weren't good enough. When it did hear me (and I heard it) it did an amazing job. For the first time I talked to a voice assistant that understood "Turn off office lights" to mean "Turn off all the lights in the office" without me giving it any special grouping (like I have to do in Alexa and then it randomly breaks). It handled a ton of requests that are easy for any human but Alexa/Siri trip up on.

I cannot wait to buy 5 or more of these to replace Alexa. HA is the brain of my house and up till now Alexa provided the best hardware to interact with HA (IMHO) but I'd love something first-party.

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#39
As someone not that familiar with haas, can someone explain why there's not a clear path to replace Alexa or Google home? I considered using haas recently to get a gpt like response after being frustrated with Google home, but it seems this is a complete mess. is there a way to get this yet?

Re: The era of open voice assistants

#40
post #3

That's a pretty timely release considering Alexa and the Google assistant devices seem to have plateaued or are on the decline.

Curious what you mean by that.

For me the Alexa devices I own have gotten worse. Can't do simple things (setting a timer used to be instant, now it takes 10-15 seconds of thinking assuming it heard properly), playing music is a joke (will try to play through Deezer even though I disaled that integration months ago, and then will default to Amazon Music instead of Spotify which is set as the default).

And then even simple skills can't understand what I'm asking 60% of the time. The first maybe 2 years after launch it seemed like everything worked pretty good but since then it's been a frustrating decline.

Currently they are relagated to timers and music, and it can't even manage those half the time anymore.

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