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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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The third time someone calls to complain that the alkaline batteries they put in this leaked, they'll wish they used a soldered-in 3V lithium primary cell. Even though that goes against a certain ethos.

They should have added $5 to the price and packaged in $4 of lithium AA batteries.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

In all seriousness, if I put an Airtag on my $6k bike and it was stolen and it showed where it was. I'd be getting that bike back and not worrying too much about a confrontation.

Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is.

If something is stolen, if I don't know where it is that makes the problem 10x worse. At the very least the airtag shows where that item is (unless it has been found and thrown away).

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

It only complains once that the battery is low and never again, I've run into a dead battery when searching for an AirTag multiple times.

I read somewhere that the AirTag doesn’t actually know whether it’s low on battery or not. The alert is just triggered after a preprogrammed time.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #204

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"if you don't let people steal your stuff you're not a real man!" That was awfully presumptuous and condescending. I think the people advocating we let thieves take our things are the ones who need some updates. Ad hominem attacks aside, you're presenting a false dichotomy. There is nothing mutually exclusive about analysis and violence.

You made up a fake quote to respond to. What's the point of that?

> There is nothing mutually exclusive about analysis and violence.

Of course not. That's just the hypothetical presented here, though. The post I replied to argued that it is better to be both stupid and violent rather than smart when it comes to protecting dignity. Of course there are cases where it's smart to be violent (and stupid to use analysis, for that matter).

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There exists a small percentage of men who will go absolutely savage on somebody for stealing from them, and the existence of those people is probably a bigger crime deterrent than the police. So I say, shine on you crazy air tag tracking vigilante diamonds.

This is called an evolutionary stable strategy. (my favorite type of Nash equilibrium) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionarily_stable_strate...

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Yes, but only if you remove the speaker which is well documented on YouTube

Even if you do that they will still notify a thief with a notification on their iPhone.

But it doesn't do this right away.I was traveling with a group of people that had AirTags, and I only start getting alerts by day three.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#247
post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

In all seriousness, if I put an Airtag on my $6k bike and it was stolen and it showed where it was. I'd be getting that bike back and not worrying too much about a confrontation. Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is. If something is stolen, if I don't know where it is that makes the problem 10x worse. At the very least the airtag shows where that item is (unless it…

> Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is.

Yes, and then wait 6 months for the police to get around to picking it up ...

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#248
post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

>stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway?

you discover something has been stolen (or lost), and not knowing exactly when it happened but curious about that too, you immediately try to look up where it was last seen and if it's still tracking. What's the problem with that scenario, sounds perfectly reasonable.

he wants the long battery not because the thief is going to carry it around for 10 years, but simply so that it will more likely to be charged and location tracking at the time it is stolen from the owner.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#249
post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

In all seriousness, if I put an Airtag on my $6k bike and it was stolen and it showed where it was. I'd be getting that bike back and not worrying too much about a confrontation. Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is. If something is stolen, if I don't know where it is that makes the problem 10x worse. At the very least the airtag shows where that item is (unless it…

My experience of an airtag on my stolen $300 bike was that the tag showed up in a location the cops told me was about a block away from a notorious chop shop in the city. I just sighed and bought a new bike.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

> stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? you discover something has been stolen (or lost), and not knowing exactly when it happened but curious about that too , you immediately try to look up where it was last seen and if it's still tracking. What's the problem with that scenario, sounds perfectly reasonable. he wants the long battery not because the t…

> so that it will more likely to be charged and location tracking at the time it is stolen

Unless you're ignoring/suppressing the low battery notifications for months, that's already overwhelmingly likely.

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