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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Why can't the AirTag simply report its battery status and warn the user e.g. through a nearby iPhone?

This is another case of bad UX by a company praised for its great "product design skills".

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#213

Why can't the AirTag simply report its battery status and warn the user e.g. through a nearby iPhone? This is another case of bad UX by a company praised for its great "product design skills".

It does do that already. The author likely ignored the notifications repeatedly until it died.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#214

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Maybe they need an option for people like you called "smoke detector mode" where it starts to annoyingly beep once a minute.

Dear god please no. The kind of people who don't notice empty batteries also don't notice the annoying beeps. But I do. Apartment living can be hell when there are neighbours who don't replace their smoke detector batteries. I can't fathom how people can sleep through this loud annoying chirp every thirty seconds. I certainly find it hard and my apartment is far enough away that it's hard to determine where exactly t…

That's easy to fix. Just carry a pocket full of 2032s, and offer to swap out the beeping tags near you. For a small nominal fee, of course. Or just for free for the sake of humanity or just your own sanity.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Is fear of punishment the main reason you aren't out there stealing the things you want and killing those who get in your way?

The question isn't enlightening, because the modal HN commenter isn't anything like the modal criminal

i like your use of modal. if more people understood that criminality follows power law distribution, we would have better policy.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#217

Nice solution, but the bigger problem is how AirTags can basically be turned off, which makes it poor for many use cases. Of course, I get it from Apple's perspective, they dont want AirTags to be used to tail others. However, that precludes it from being used for theft tracking. For example, I use an AirTag on my bicycle. If someone steals the bicycle, they are literally informed "an air tag is following you" https:…

Theft-tracking is sort of an "off-label" use for AirTags, from Apple's perspective. They'd rather make AirTags less generally useful than make them both more generally useful + open to stalking occurrences and lawsuits.

Agreed on the trade-off. And there are some absolutely 1000% winning use cases (lost cats, lost dogs, lost luggage). However, lets look at the constraints and outcomes:

- Me or other people need to be around (since airtags jump off others' devices)

This removes use cases like tracking lost marine goods, tracking lost drones, etc.

- Item being tracked has to be big enough to be worth the extra size/weight of the long life battery wrapper

This removes most common use cases like wallets, remotes, etc.

- Item being tracked has to be something you actually lose w/o wrongdoing. Makes sense for backpacks, purses, parked cars.

But, most capital equipment wouldnt be "lost" it would be stolen, so that is out.

https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/20-surprisingly-practical...

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Yes

interesting. the concept of that's not yours and is actually someone else's isn't the most compelling reason? very interesting

That concept encompasses a ton of gray area. For example, did the ancestors of the person you are stealing from enslave your ancestors? Or more simply, are you or your children going to go hungry?

At the limit, the rule is always might makes right. Until then, the question is how much are you willing to give up to re-order the status quo? (A reordering that may or may not end up in your favor)

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

#219

Why can't the AirTag simply report its battery status and warn the user e.g. through a nearby iPhone? This is another case of bad UX by a company praised for its great "product design skills".

> Why can't the AirTag simply report its battery status and warn the user e.g. through a nearby iPhone?

This is precisely how an AirTag works. It reports its battery status[1] via a notification to the user on an iPhone.

[1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102600

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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> we recommend Energizer Ultimate Lithium The advantage of "lithium" is high rate discharge, not longevity right?

I think in this case it’s shelf life. Very little discharge for a very long time.

Doing some math, looks like a CR2032 is roughly 200mah while AA is 2000mah. So if CR2032 lasts one year, then the AA will be 10 years, two AA would be 20 years. I guess in that case lithium would be the way to go.

I just know for your typical wall clock that takes a single AA, whether it is lithium or alkaline, both won't make it much further than a year.

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