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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Usually, cars are worth more than 10K and they are often left out in the street!

Yeah but someone can't pick up my car and walk away with it on their back, can they now, genius?

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Any chance that the AirTag could have a software memory leak that would normally be masked by cutting power once a year? Its possible right? The code must be written in something low level like C. Would be kinda funny if 10 years from now the author gets his stuff stolen again and then discovers said memory leak crashed the Airtag 9 years ago. As Elon Musk likes to say: "The most ironic outcome is the most likely" .…

That's a very good point. The system design of the airtags assumed a much shorter battery life, which may have led to decisions that would introduce issues at 10x battery life. Thinking more like overflow issues. But could also be a complete non-issue. Hard to say.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Who leaves 10K worth of anything in their car? I get antsy leaving my $200 laptop hidden under my seat! This person is crazy. There is also no guarantee they person who stole the bag wouldn't dump the bag(with the hidden AirTag) and just keep the gear or that the police would help recover it even if you gave them the location(many times the don't).

Surely going to lunch with 10k of equipment is safer, especially when you'll need to go to the toilet.

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not, but generally car break-ins are much more frequent than muggings. And bringing a bag of expensive equipment into the bathroom is almost certainly less risky than leaving it somewhere, whether in your car or elsewhere.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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I wonder if they really don't know that Apple already has a product named Time Capsule.

The product you're referring to is called "AirPort Time Capsule" and time capsule can't be copyrighted.

https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/...

It is a registered trademark. As I understand it, common words or phrases can be protected within the same area. Colours too - https://secureyourtrademark.com/blog/t-mobile-magenta/

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #53

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Its really easy for them, and this also in line how they would operate: Add a new Airtag v2 protocol to the next iPhone and sell new Airtags only using that protocol. Why should you buy them? They could have different improvements you would like. Start deprecating Airtag v1 in 3-4 years - and only sell new ones. There are now 3-4 iPhone generations that can handle the new version. The next iPhone in 6-7 years doesn't…

I would agree with you if this was a main line product (iPad, Macs, iPhone). You could argue the Apple Watch is a main line product as well. But this is an accessory line. Apple is pretty good at keeping accessories working for as long as possible. AirPods v1 still work. A Magic Mouse bought 10 years ago still works as long as the battery isn't dead.

actually ... it doesn't. Well, you can't use them with a phone anymore because they did exactly as described. The new mice work fine though.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Who leaves 10K worth of anything in their car? I get antsy leaving my $200 laptop hidden under my seat! This person is crazy. There is also no guarantee they person who stole the bag wouldn't dump the bag(with the hidden AirTag) and just keep the gear or that the police would help recover it even if you gave them the location(many times the don't).

Surely going to lunch with 10k of equipment is safer, especially when you'll need to go to the toilet.

It's a backpack. You hang it on the hook on the stall door where you hang your jacket

I think there is less of a likelihood someone is going to jump you for your backpack when you are at a restaurant for lunch than there is for them breaking into a car parked only a dimly lit street for said backpack.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #108

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This is not at all in line with how Apple operates, it's diametrically opposed to it in fact. I suppose you could contradict me by providing a list of the products Apple has deprecated this way. Can you?

It's exactly how Apple operates. The last Apple device with Firewire was produced in 2012, though it was sold for several more years. MacOS 13 (2022) dropped the Firewire CoreAudio driver (as well as other, more niche support for Firewire). So... exactly 10 years. If you're going to put me in a bucket, I'd be in the "Apple Hater" bucket, but I honestly think that the way that they do this is fine. It would have been…

I might be missing something but Apple was the first (major) company to ship USB 1.1 in 1998 on the iMac. It was a big deal IIRC also because they removed the floppy drive at the same time.

But maybe you are talking about something else?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #108

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It's exactly how Apple operates. The last Apple device with Firewire was produced in 2012, though it was sold for several more years. MacOS 13 (2022) dropped the Firewire CoreAudio driver (as well as other, more niche support for Firewire). So... exactly 10 years. If you're going to put me in a bucket, I'd be in the "Apple Hater" bucket, but I honestly think that the way that they do this is fine. It would have been…

Apple sold the first widely-available computer with USB connections, the iMac G3. > To replace the removed ports, the iMac has Universal Serial Bus (USB) ports, which were faster and cheaper than Apple Desktop Bus and serial ports but were very new—the standard was not finalized until after the iMac's release—and unsupported by any third-party Mac peripheral. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3#Design It would no…

> Apple sold the first widely-available computer with USB connections, the iMac G3.

They were also, simultaneously, the first manufacturer to really go all-in on USB. Some PC manufacturers at the time were including one or two USB ports on their systems, but relied on legacy ports (PS/2, serial, parallel, etc) for most functionality. Their USB ports were mostly a show of "look, we have the new thing" - much in the same way that modern PC motherboards may have a single USB-C port on the back, actually.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #55

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are lithium batteries known to expand or catch fire in the AA form factor?

I think you misunderstood GP. Lithium AA batteries are very reliable and keep charge for at least ten years (the standard metric is losing approximately 1% per year), that's what he's saying. They won't burn because they contain metallic lithium (and not lithium salts like rechargeable cells) and don't contain easily flammable organic solvents (yep, like rechargeable cells). There are videos on YouTube of people disa…

it's a sincere and earnest question - I didn't know. I appreciate the additional info.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

i wish police do honey trap more often like put expensive equipment. That will definitely reduce lot of crimes.
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