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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by samatman »

tpetry wrote: post #53
spiderfarmer wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple kills existing Airtags any time soon they effectively kill the product line. So they won’t.

Its really easy for them, and this also in line how they would operate: Add a new Airtag v2 protocol to the next iPhone and sell new Airtags only using that protocol. Why should you buy them? They could have different improvements you would like. Start deprecating Airtag v1 in 3-4 years - and only sell new ones. There are now 3-4 iPhone generations that can handle the new version. The next iPhone in 6-7 years doesn't…

This is not at all in line with how Apple operates, it's diametrically opposed to it in fact.

I suppose you could contradict me by providing a list of the products Apple has deprecated this way.

Can you?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

alnwlsn wrote: post #10
janandonly wrote: post #2

That is not how batteries work. Batteries drain even under minimal usage. My bet is that in 2/3 years this device will stop working already. Just change the batteries if you AirTag once a year. Especially if you are using an AirTag to keep watch over 10.000 dollar equipment.

Here [0] is the datasheet for the batteries used. 25 year shelf life is spec'd. I have personally run these cells buried underground, and gotten 4.5 years out of 4 of them, though my application is just for fun and likely not as power conservative as an AirTag. [0] https://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l91.pdf

Ooh what's the application underground?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by _yb2s »

jerlam wrote: post #26
m463 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of smoke alarms now have 10 year batteries.

Now mandated in California. No more waking up in the middle of the night and crawling up a ladder to find out which of your smoke alarms decided it was too cold and decided to sing its low battery chirp.

Does that fix it or make it worse? If you have 10 smoke detectors and they end up randomly staggered so this happens once a year, and you can't replace the batteries anymore... that seems worse than the old system which completely eliminated this issue if you just replaced them all every year or two on a schedule.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by ronsor »

dmajor2 wrote: post #62
drdaeman wrote: post #56

Are AirTags actually useful for anti-theft purposes? I threw one in the trunk of my car (just in case - I ordered a 4-pack and I had a spare one), and every single time I drive somewhere it chirps loudly when I'm exiting my driveway, making its presence immediately obvious without any delays, and despite my phone being with me in the car.

No, they have been rendered useless for that purpose through software updates because of the almost 100% overlap of the use cases of 1) stalking someone 2) and tracking a thief.

Wait until they realize the almost 100% overlap between the camera's use cases of 1) spying on people and 2) recording nature

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by alamortsubite »

humanpotato wrote: post #73

What is the point of CNC machined screws? I have only seen that type of thing on specialized military applications and the like. I'm sure standard rolled screws would be just fine...

Not technical razzle-dazzle but the sheer aesthetic superiority of its elegant parabolic design make the GFX-100 a marketing breakthrough!

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by buescher »

ssl-3 wrote: post #15
LeafItAlone wrote: post #14

Really neat idea and at that price I’ll probably get some for luggage and my backpacks, where I have AirTags that stay there the whole time. One thing I’m curious about battery leakage. Many of the batteries of my remotes and similar devices seem to leak after a while (including one I heard pop and got very warm). These are devices that do get frequent usage, so they aren’t just sitting without any discharge (but als…

This appears to be intended to be used with lithium primary cells. Lithium primary cells tend not to get all leaky with age like alkalines do. (They'll keep your remote working approximately forever, too.)

IIRC the packaging pretty much says, should they leak, Energizer really wants to hear about it. For what that's worth.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by neilv »

542354234235 wrote: post #46
zeagle wrote: post #17

Does anyone know what camera bag that is on that website. Peak design? Looks perfect for my usual load out.

I'm pretty sure it is the DSLR Pro Pack by Incase. https://www.incase.com/products/dslr-pro-pack?srsltid=AfmBOo...

It's a good design, IME. Lowepro makes a variety of similar ones. (I had a one similar to the photo, fitting 2 bodies, wide L, long L, f/1.4 prime, strobes and triggers, and boxes of strobe batteries.)

Lowepro also has day/overnight/carryon backpacks, so you can carry some DSLR gear, laptop, change of clothes, and toiletries, all in one bag.

I still have one LowePro day backpack that I repurposed as engineer/startup briefcase. It fits a huge laptop and misc. stuff for working late hours, and has a DSLR door in the side, so you can slide one shoulder strap off off long enough swing it forward like a sling bag, for quick access to a good camera for serendipitous shots.

Regarding real sling bags, I personally wouldn't use for lengthy carrying of heavy stuff, since it's asymmetric left/right. I even got rid of my grocery canvas tote bags, and use an old backpack for carrying home groceries.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by omgwtfbyobbq »

kube-system wrote: post #68
carlgreene wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but only if you remove the speaker which is well documented on YouTube

Even if you do that they will still notify a thief with a notification on their iPhone.

I think that's ok though, right?

As long as you do a good job placing/hiding it, the thief can't easily find and remove/disable without the speaker.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by MisterTea »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #35

I'm OK with the One-Year-ish battery life and happy to change them yearly. I try to do them in batches (the fours usually die together within about a month). The irritating ones are in the bags/check-ins I stashed/stored snugly, and now I have to take them out to replace the battery. Of course, the bearable thing is that the battery lasts for about a month after the warning, so there is that. I think I'm complaining…

Well look at in in terms of batteries deposited per year in the landfill: 0.1 or 1.
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