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Bolt is logitech's newer wireless protocol (with devices using a dongle rather than bluetooth) that's supposed to be more secure than the older one.
I think the real highlight of the Bolt receiver is being able to pair up to 6 devices with just a single receiver.
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Their major flaw is that they purposefully use shitty switches that fail, sometimes within months. This is true even with their absurdly overpriced gaming mice. I have never had a mouse whose buttons failed until I bought a logitech. Every person I know raves about them until you ask them how many they've had to buy.
Nah, I deployed Logitech for ~300 users in a manufacturing environment for years and they were just fine. You got unlucky or are beating the shit out of them.
I won’t claim to be a statistically representative sample, but from my experience their high-end stuff is expected to break after between 2 to 3 years. I kept going back to them because the hardware is very nice when it works. I gave up and bought a Razer Naga about 3 years ago. Hopefully it fares better in the long run.
I only buy Logitech because Solaar exist. It would be nice if they’d get some kickback. I just feel like it needs an AI prompt builder and then it’s finished.
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Not cross platform, difficult to theme or style to Logitech brand guidelines?
To be honest I would be more inclined to install their driver if it did not include ugly Logitech branding and respected a bit more the OS it runs on. I don’t care about cross platform UI in an application for mouse settings, it’s simply not my problem. It has 1 window, FFS. How hard is it to use native toolkits?
You have to remember that, besides the extra engineering effort, having a separate, native UI for each platform also increases the support burden for dealing with people having issues with the program. Companies the size of Logitech bend over backwards to reduce their support costs, so it shouldn't be surprising that they opted for the path of least resistance here.
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All of those should be state changes in the mouse.. IE. the software should run to make the settings then exit. There should be no reason for it to keep running.
Logitech's best kept secret is they do make a lightweight version of their software for exactly that, it edits the settings saved on the mouse and does absolutely nothing else. It's only available for Windows though. https://support.logi.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360059641133-Onbo...
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Do the users care about that? Or just the management? And mouse drivers aren't typically cross platform anyway, right?
Users: maybe, but probably not many of them. Management absolutely cares, they have a whole design guidebook why wouldn’t they follow it?? And the drivers likely aren’t cross-platform in the sense of “the windows DLL is just dead code on a Mac”, but the UI of the software can be the same across platforms. The executable is likely a tiny bit of platform-specific launcher code and then cross-platform electron fun.
So the same question applies: yes they have a whole design guidebook but why ? Does the users care ? My opinion would be that most don’t and that those who care are horrified by all those apps with all their own guidelines.
Computers used to be (and I’ll be giving credits to old windows for that) « once you learned the system/ergonomics you only have to adapt to each program’s feature set » and is now « relearn everything on my app and btw it’s not compatible with other apps except our partners ».
I mean as an example, we pretty much had a working standard in how to discover features of a program (the menu bar) and how to give back data to the user (saving and opening files). Just knowing those patterns made you apt to discover most of programs features.
I’m not saying it was perfect or intuitive, but it was not hard and OSes could have improved that.
But we collectively ditched that for, it seems, easier deployment on the web (which is not something Logitech is concerned by, btw) and since there is no UI framework, why not hire UI designers to write UI guidelines ? It’ll make marketing guys happy anyway.
I’m sorry I recognize that I’m a little salty on this topic but I do feel like the industry stole something important to the users, or at least if I’m honest, to me, which is the basic knowledge of how to use a computer.
I only buy Logitech because Solaar exist. It would be nice if they’d get some kickback. I just feel like it needs an AI prompt builder and then it’s finished.
Was the AI prompt builder sarcastic or a serious suggestion? I can’t figure out how any AI fits into my mouse configuration utility
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And yet, my keyboard can do almost (no per-program switching) all of the same FROM A WEB PAGE. WebHID should be all that's needed for advanced input devices. If you want some sort of per-program profile switching, sure, release a dedicated app that handles sending a special HID command sequence to trigger a profile switch.
And if Logitech had a webpage to configure settings, HN would be up in arms about not being able to configure while offline.
Thanks to Solaar I hot my F1-F12 keys back on a Logitech keyboard that defaults to requiring Fn to use those (on Mac/Win you can change this using an app by Logitech). It’s been working well for a long time. I suggest getting it from their own ppa because the version in your Linux distro might be pretty old