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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

bdangubic wrote: post #245
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

there is limited number of H1B visas that are issued each year (as if I have to even say this)... so they won't make a dent if you are correct with "the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work." we abolish the program and boom, 65k people out of this apparently HUGE number of US developers looking for work won't make a dent... so this argument holds absolutely no water ...

...other than... you know... the entire point of the H1B visa program... is to get talent the US DOESN'T already have ...

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by ashconnor »

halyconWays wrote: post #50
laidoffamazon wrote: post #23

Expect this to be rolled back fully on January 20

He ran on a platform of easier legal immigration.

Read the RAISE Act if you think that the incoming administration is going to be easier on legal migrants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAISE_Act

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by 0x457 »

admissionsguy wrote: post #231
wooque wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Founders can self petition Wait, so I can just open LLC and get H1B visa for it? There have to be conditions and limitations, otherwise it will be misused.

So can I now go to SF, set up an LLC, and get the sweet SF dev rates?

Sure, as long LLC that you have set up generates enough revenue to pay your salary.

I'm not sure you understand how this works.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #249
Spivak wrote: post #189

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I feel like this whole issue could be solved short order if we agreed that not being able to find qualified applicants at a given fixed price does not a shortage make. It's the same with the "fast food shortage," I bet the shortage would dry up real fast at $50/hr so all we're really doing is haggling over price. If in order to hire a H1-B at a salary of x you had to offer US workers 2x with say a $100k floor on x th…

So then call the H1-B program what it is - a way for US tech companies to depress wages to the point that you can't afford to live the US, unless it's a bunch of H-1B holders living together in a house share. The same goes for offshoring for jobs. Lovely for shareholders and the CEO's bonus, but not so great for US residents having to compete with them who are paying US cost of living, not Indian/etc overseas cost of…

It's racist to prefer citizens over non-citizens though. The US government should pass laws benefiting all people of the world equally.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by strongpigeon »

guiomie wrote: post #261
strongpigeon wrote: post #205

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Good news: the USCIS makes this data available! [0] Google, Microsoft and Meta definitely look for (and hire!) US applicants. One can reasonably have a gripe with the consulting companies on there (Infosys, Tata, Cognizant, etc.) but they don't represent 90-95% of H-1B issued. [0] https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employe...

Actually, looking at your link, Google, Meta, Apple, Amazon are all in the top 10... on the link you shared, am I missing something?

My point was that those companies are indeed in the top 10, and those companies also look at and hire US applicants. This was in response to the commenter’s point that they’d be surprised if 5-10% of H1Bs listing even considered US applicants.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by tartoran »

breadwinner wrote: post #260
PessimalDecimal wrote: post #203

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Does "The US" siphon that money off? Or Meta, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. siphon that money off? And where and to whom does it go from there? The major benefit of reducing or eliminating the H1B visa program is that those companies can continue to do well, and Americans can do well along with them.

The money this siphon brings in is benefiting not just tech workers and tech shareholders. When the money is spent it turns the wheels of our economy, which leads to prosperity for all Americans, not just the 8% or so that work in tech. The tech industry vacuums up money from foreign countries and pumps it into the economy of our country. The beneficiaries include all Americans, including those who work in restaurant…

When is that prosperity coming to the US? It seems that it's been leaving the US for the past decades and life is harder and harder and the American Dream is hardest to attain in decades.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by yodsanklai »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #168
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

There is a shortage of applicants willing to work at what companies want to pay. If it is taking more than 30-60 days for workers to find a role, there are enough workers domestically.

> There is a shortage of applicants willing to work at what companies want to pay

If you want the best candidates, it makes sense to have a wider pool of recruitment.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by tartoran »

strongpigeon wrote: post #227
PessimalDecimal wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does "The US" siphon that money off? Or Meta, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. siphon that money off? And where and to whom does it go from there? The major benefit of reducing or eliminating the H1B visa program is that those companies can continue to do well, and Americans can do well along with them.

Restricting or eliminating the H1B visas will cause these companies to hire more in oversea offices. Consulting companies however are a whole other deal.

Why aren't they doing that now though?

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by [deleted] »

remarkEon wrote: post #246
hash872 wrote: post #235

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The US is only 4% of the world's population, so there's an enormous number of extremely smart people who live outside its present borders. I don't think anyone believes that even the world's greatest educational system can bring all of its students up to an extremely high level of general intelligence. We should be letting very smart people born outside the US emigrate here, which is a win-win for everyone involved

Sure. But the government of the United States is, allegedly, there for the benefit of its citizens. I'm not really following where this "should" comes from. "Should" in what volume? "Should" over what time frame?

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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by amykhar »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #168
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

There is a shortage of applicants willing to work at what companies want to pay. If it is taking more than 30-60 days for workers to find a role, there are enough workers domestically.

That is absolutely what these kinds of Visas are NOT supposed to be addressing.
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