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Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#61

Before GitHub Copilot was a paid feature. This only shows to the Cursor team that they are going to the right direction. The slow elephant enterprise GitHub will never be as good/fast as Cursor, they had their chance but they have joined the party of "keeping the devs under our umbrella with free features" too late.

If Cursor remains successful, they’re likely to turn into a slow elephant enterprise as well eventually. That’s rather the rule than the exception, unfortunately.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#62
Is there any solution that is 1- fully local 2- open source 3- fast on CPU only 4- provide reasonable good results for smart auto complete ?

I don't want my work to depend on proprietary or even worse, online, software. We (software engineer) got lucky that all the good tools are free software and I feel we have a collective interest in making sure it stays that way (unless we want to be like farmers having to pay Monsanto tax for just being able to work because we don't know how to work differently anymore)

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't want to support AI or have my code trained on AI. What are your arguments for this?

1. I believe AI is detrimental. It makes us go too fast. It's all about production now, pure efficiency over individuals. 2. AI is too dangerous. Whatever innovations used for benign applications will be eventually used for more dangerous applications such as advanced genetic engineering and the military. 3. AI uses too much energy. It's disrespectful to the resources that we have. 4. AI is an apex technology amongst…

All of the above. It is even worse than crypto.

The AI proponents that support this have no serious solution to the mass displacement of jobs thanks to AI. They actually don't mention any alternative solutions and instead scream about nonsense such as UBI which has never worked at a large sustainable scale.

> Society needs to slow down and find alternative, more sustainable solutions. AI is aligned with short-term economic efficiency and that is detrimental.

I don't think they can come up with sensible alternatives or any sustainable solutions to the jobs displaced as there is no alternative.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#64
Working with people who use this stuff a lot has made my current job just so so much harder in every way its astonishing. I used to solve problems with code, now I feel like hermeneut or dream analyzer: absent of human intention, codebases quickly become these weird piles of different idioms, even without considering the hallucinations (those have definitely cost me a few sleepless nights now either way).

But I am just venting. All of yall have clearly won, I get it. I am just grateful I have lived a full life doing other things other than computers, so this all isn't too sad other than the prospect of being poor again.

I will always have my beautiful emacs and I will always be hacking. I will always have my Stallman, my Knuth, my Andy Wingo, my SICP. I feel it is accomplishment enough to have progressed in this career as I have, especially as a self taught developer. But I kinda want to let yall deal with slop now, you really seem to like it!

Maybe I'll get another degree now, or just make some silly music and video games again. It's liberating just thinking about being free from this "new way" we work now.

Thanks for all the fish though!

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has anyone who uses an IDE (e.g., JetBrains, not a code editor) moved to Cursor? I've downloaded it a few times because everyone raves about it, but I've always come back almost immediately because editors can't reliably make changes across projects (among many other things)... What am I missing? FWIW I use GoLand w/ Supermaven, currently.

This is the main sticking point for me, I'm not leaving JetBrains anytime soon. GitHub Copilot + Aider handle my needs beautifully and while I wish Aider had deep IDE integration I can work around that (Yes, I know about the "AI!" command thing, it's a cool idea but sucks in practice). Aider in browser mode has pretty much replaced my back and forth to ChatGPT/Claude's web UI to the point that I'm considering going A…

For Jetbrains users: consider voting for https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/LLM-2402

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#66
llama3.3:70b-instruct-q4_K_M (~43 GB, 2x 3090/4090 or fast memory cpu inference on e.g. macs)

or

qwen2.5-coder:32b-instruct-q5_K_M (~23 GB)

or

gemma2:9b-instruct-q6_K (~7.5 GB)

and

https://github.com/bernardo-bruning/ollama-copilot

or alternatively:

https://github.com/ollama/ollama + https://github.com/olimorris/codecompanion.nvim

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#67
post #5

I ditched Copilot for Cursor and never looked back. Cursor might be the only other AI product with product market fit than ChatGPT, it's that good

Has anyone who uses an IDE (e.g., JetBrains, not a code editor) moved to Cursor? I've downloaded it a few times because everyone raves about it, but I've always come back almost immediately because editors can't reliably make changes across projects (among many other things)... What am I missing? FWIW I use GoLand w/ Supermaven, currently.

I've tried both Copilot and JetBrains AI with IntelliJ and both are awful compared to Cursor. No multiline editing, no composer, worse at writing tests etc.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#68
post #5

I ditched Copilot for Cursor and never looked back. Cursor might be the only other AI product with product market fit than ChatGPT, it's that good

Unfortunately for me in enterprise it was impossible to convince them to allow us to use cursor since they're not well known like GitHub/Microsoft so they're afraid of what they'd do with our data.

We are allowed Copilot and Chatgpt because of an enterprise contract with each. Luckily copilot has been improving but there definitely was a while where it felt way behind the jumps other products have had in the past year or so.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. I believe AI is detrimental. It makes us go too fast. It's all about production now, pure efficiency over individuals. 2. AI is too dangerous. Whatever innovations used for benign applications will be eventually used for more dangerous applications such as advanced genetic engineering and the military. 3. AI uses too much energy. It's disrespectful to the resources that we have. 4. AI is an apex technology amongst…

Thank you for your reply. I am currently having a ride with chatgpt allowing me to write applications at 3 times the speed compared to before (where before may be "never" for some technologies) and I am happy for everyone contributing to this. But all your points are well grounded, I will have to figure out a way to think about them, while keeping my day job.

I don't begrudge you for trying to keep your job. I myself do things for my own job that I consider questionable. I guess it's all something we should think about.
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