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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by h1bgamer »

This H1B program is gamed so hard its a joke at this point.

I personally witnessed someone that submit multiple applications that this person won the H1B lottery. This person even had fake office, fake business address, etc for the fake entities.

I already reported it, but no action has been taken. This person is now happily employed in the US using H1B.

Unethical life pro tips but work: for those of you trying to get H1B, just submit multiple applications to multiple "companies". There are services like this out there, just need to find out where.

Good luck. This nation is for plunder.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by int_19h »

M3L0NM4N wrote: post #60
laidoffamazon wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are excessively credulous and that’s the most polite I can be. I’m a natural born citizen that’s the wrong skin color and I’m planning on carrying my passport everywhere come Jan 21 - I’m not going to chance being thrown into the back of a BORTAC van.

I think a natural born citizen carrying their passport everywhere starting Jan 21 is even more credulous in the other direction.

It is, but only the "Jan 21" part.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_...

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by creer »

crmd wrote: post #68

It’s never been clear to me why this program exists in the first place, other than to put downward pressure on US STEM wages. What am I missing?

You are missing that it is used a lot in spite of that process (1) being a major administrative headache for the users, both employees and employers, (2) costly compared to hiring "locals" although that's moderated by perhaps lower salary with not a huge amount of evidence, and (3) rather unpredictable and risky for both employees and employers.

You don't see the need but perhaps the users do.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by zer8k »

duped wrote: post #31
ganeshkrishnan wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rabid chants went from: we need to stop illegal immigration and make sure everyone enters legally To: We need to make sure we only allow valuable immigrants that add to the economy To: Cancel this program. They are gaming the system. You can choose the game to play but you can't choose the rules of the game.

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Ah yes the classic "huwhite people and muh racism" gambit.

It's tired. H1Bs are gamed to the point of uselessness. Most companies internally post H1B job offerings so people are aware. I've yet to see one with a competitive salary. They are used to source cheaper labor and avoid paying actual Americans the fair wage they deserve. The last 15-20 years of tech has slowly seen the InfoSys-ization of the tech economy. I work with more contractors from Mexico, India, and Eastern Europe, and more H1Bs from India than literally anyone else. On my team I can count the number of Americans on one hand.

The program should be extremely limited. I am a fan of charging 2-3x the normal tax rate for H1Bs so companies have to actually justify hiring "talent you can't find in America". There are 300,000 unemployed tech workers. I find it hard to believe none fit the bill. Just that most won't take a 60% haircut for more work.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by commandlinefan »

KerrAvon wrote: post #30
laidoffamazon wrote: post #23

Expect this to be rolled back fully on January 20

Unclear. They're not going to be consistent or competent, and the intent of everything they do will be to either part out the government to their friends, weaponize the US government against perceived enemies. And they might reward people who kiss the ring by granting exceptions. Really, given the premise, anyone sane should kill H-1B entirely for tech: "The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cann…

... not that it was _ever_ used that way, since its inception.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by creer »

ajsidncjcnbd wrote: post #57
laidoffamazon wrote: post #23

Expect this to be rolled back fully on January 20

Trump has said he’d like to “staple green cards to diplomas”. Despite what the media portrays, he’s not pro American, pro white, pro nazi, whatever. He’s owned by a different slice of the parasitic ruling class that, while opposed to some of the goals the Biden admin was for, still share a common theme of not caring about the average American at all. He has probably the most pro Israel cabinet we’ve ever seen and app…

Wouldn't attaching green cards - or at least temporary work permits - to US university degrees be a positive change compared to employment agencies / contractor firms trying to sneak in piles of people without such degrees and screening? That would be a good response to the issue of training (ideally) highly qualified smart people and then kicking them out.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by dang »

ziddoap wrote: post #19

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/12/18/2024-29... The tweet is a super brief summary, reproduced below. Founders can self petition (& spouses can work) - Own >50% of the entity, or have majority voting rights Roles tied to research institutions cap-exempt - Organizations where fundamental research is a key activity now qualify - Startups can hire researchers (AI, health, hardware) year-round Students ge…

(This was originally posted in the other thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42451271, but it's useful here too)

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by whatshisface »

crmd wrote: post #68

It’s never been clear to me why this program exists in the first place, other than to put downward pressure on US STEM wages. What am I missing?

Hypothetically it exists to allow companies to hire singular overseas experts like von Braun or Einstein that don't have domestic equivalents. It has become totally accepted to lie on the application though and now it is used to hire Java developers.
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