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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by codezero »

ziddoap wrote: post #56
KerrAvon wrote: post #35

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Silly name calling isn't how grownups should discuss politics. If anything, it makes it harder to agree with any point you're trying to make. Edit: I had no idea it was controversial to say that name calling makes an argument less convincing.

Trump can’t speak about anyone he opposes without giving them a childish nickname, seems fair to reciprocate. Going further, it appears that the leader of the nation modeling this behavior also normalizes it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Dona...

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by morkalork »

ziddoap wrote: post #56
KerrAvon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Silly name calling isn't how grownups should discuss politics. If anything, it makes it harder to agree with any point you're trying to make. Edit: I had no idea it was controversial to say that name calling makes an argument less convincing.

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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by laidoffamazon »

M3L0NM4N wrote: post #60
laidoffamazon wrote: post #53

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I think you are excessively credulous and that’s the most polite I can be. I’m a natural born citizen that’s the wrong skin color and I’m planning on carrying my passport everywhere come Jan 21 - I’m not going to chance being thrown into the back of a BORTAC van.

I think a natural born citizen carrying their passport everywhere starting Jan 21 is even more credulous in the other direction.

I don’t think you’ve thought through the downside risk. A coworker - himself of my ethnicity - assumed I was foreign born, I’m not going to leave it to chance when the promised deportation dragnet starts up.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by n144q »

halyconWays wrote: post #50
laidoffamazon wrote: post #23

Expect this to be rolled back fully on January 20

He ran on a platform of easier legal immigration.

Funny I see this kind of misguided comments all the time.

Their immigration policy is never only about illegal immigration. Do you actually think it is possible to tighten immigration policy without affecting H1B?

If you need evidence, just look at what happened between 2017-2021. H1B denial & RFE rates were way up, and the administration tried multiple times to roll out policy that significantly restrict the eligibility of H1B visas. They even used coronavirus as an excuse to issue travel bans on H1B. How is that making legal immigration easier?

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by CuriouslyC »

ziddoap wrote: post #56
KerrAvon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Silly name calling isn't how grownups should discuss politics. If anything, it makes it harder to agree with any point you're trying to make. Edit: I had no idea it was controversial to say that name calling makes an argument less convincing.

What's grown up about people who say they don't care if their candidate murders someone on the white house steps, they'd still vote for him? Insanity needs to be derided.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by hombre_fatal »

observationist wrote: post #52
dbbk wrote: post #10

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How do you propose hiring tech talent then

Right, the desperate need for talent is the reason these programs are used so heavily. It's not discounted salary and cost savings in benefits, insurance, and other areas for non-permanent employees, or having leverage over immigrant employees in negotiations. Corporations only ever use these programs to get the absolute best of the best and they absolutely aren't abused to bypass the stricter regulations and require…

I didn’t believe it until I saw it, but look at the classified section of the San Francisco newspaper where big tech companies post job listing knowing that Americans won’t see them so they can say they tried to get domestic talent.

My neighbor is on a visa from mumbai working at Chase who was brought in as the lead frontend engineer (def can’t find Javascript devs in the US). Even he admitted it’s weird that his whole team is from India on visas. They just aren’t hiring citizens.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by crmd »

It’s never been clear to me why this program exists in the first place, other than to put downward pressure on US STEM wages. What am I missing?

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by __loam »

dbbk wrote: post #10
pseingatl wrote: post #2

Cancel the program. It's not needed. It's used to game the system. It's not supposed to be a backdoor to a green card.

How do you propose hiring tech talent then

They could try hiring one of the hundreds of thousands of citizens they laid off over the past 3 years.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by n144q »

KerrAvon wrote: post #30
laidoffamazon wrote: post #23

Expect this to be rolled back fully on January 20

Unclear. They're not going to be consistent or competent, and the intent of everything they do will be to either part out the government to their friends, weaponize the US government against perceived enemies. And they might reward people who kiss the ring by granting exceptions. Really, given the premise, anyone sane should kill H-1B entirely for tech: "The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cann…

> CS schools are full

I guess you never paid any attention to the nationality of students enrolled in CS classes.

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