Advanced Expressive Humanoid Whole-Body Control
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Advanced Expressive Humanoid Whole-Body Control
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Re: Advanced Expressive Humanoid Whole-Body Control
#2That Unitree G1 [1] in the video starts at $16k, which surprised me. I’m guessing end effectors drive that price way up but it feels like we are maybe a decade away from useful household humanoid robots for the price of a cheap car, which would put it well within the means of many in the developed world.
Does anyone have any insight on how realistically far away the control and programming is from that reality? A bunch of very impressive robotic control model research has been posted on HN in the last two years but as an outsider it’s hard to evaluate just how close we are to doing away with folding clothes by general purpose humanoid robot.
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#3I don't understand which things are real and which are simulations.
https://youtu.be/sE4cEfhVOdE?si=FYXrtt-lvr0EEqtV&t=48
That part of the video has been heavily edited somehow, at the very least.
https://youtu.be/sE4cEfhVOdE?si=OsHygaSqG_mgjygp&t=93
Also looks fake to me.
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#4That Unitree G1 [1] in the video starts at $16k, which surprised me. I’m guessing end effectors drive that price way up but it feels like we are maybe a decade away from useful household humanoid robots for the price of a cheap car, which would put it well within the means of many in the developed world. Does anyone have any insight on how realistically far away the control and programming is from that reality? A bun…
I'm pretty sure that $16k is aspirational at this point. See "Contact us for the real price" here: https://shop.unitree.com/products/unitree-g1
I've heard that the real price is more like $35k. And you probably want options that increase the price more. For example on one of their dog robots I believe the base price doesn't include detailed control over the limbs, so you can only use their included software to walk it around.
Still though, even the higher price is pretty good. Hard to see how China doesn't dominate humanoids given their manufacturing advantage and the sheer number of humanoid companies there now. Dozens!
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#5I don't understand which things are real and which are simulations. https://youtu.be/sE4cEfhVOdE?si=FYXrtt-lvr0EEqtV&t=48 That part of the video has been heavily edited somehow, at the very least. https://youtu.be/sE4cEfhVOdE?si=OsHygaSqG_mgjygp&t=93 Also looks fake to me.
The first clip just seems like they blurred the background for that shot. Maybe because there were people walking in the background, they felt they needed to obscure them.
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#6I wonder when we'll get the equivalent of fat padding and skin nerves on humanoid robots. Would that help make them less "waddly"?
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#7That Unitree G1 [1] in the video starts at $16k, which surprised me. I’m guessing end effectors drive that price way up but it feels like we are maybe a decade away from useful household humanoid robots for the price of a cheap car, which would put it well within the means of many in the developed world. Does anyone have any insight on how realistically far away the control and programming is from that reality? A bun…
I'm pretty sure that $16k is aspirational at this point. See "Contact us for the real price" here: https://shop.unitree.com/products/unitree-g1 I've heard that the real price is more like $35k. And you probably want options that increase the price more. For example on one of their dog robots I believe the base price doesn't include detailed control over the limbs, so you can only use their included software to walk i…
Someone I know got it recently. If you're getting with the API and all the sensors it was close to 60k including customs and all of that.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure that $16k is aspirational at this point. See "Contact us for the real price" here: https://shop.unitree.com/products/unitree-g1 I've heard that the real price is more like $35k. And you probably want options that increase the price more. For example on one of their dog robots I believe the base price doesn't include detailed control over the limbs, so you can only use their included software to walk i…
Someone I know got it recently. If you're getting with the API and all the sensors it was close to 60k including customs and all of that.
I would buy that today if the battery life was not abysmal. It is though; that is, at least for me, a far larger issue than all else. We cannot make laptops or phones work an entire day; robots/drones are measured in minutes.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone I know got it recently. If you're getting with the API and all the sensors it was close to 60k including customs and all of that.
I would buy that today if the battery life was not abysmal. It is though; that is, at least for me, a far larger issue than all else. We cannot make laptops or phones work an entire day; robots/drones are measured in minutes.
What would you use it for that needs long battery life?
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone I know got it recently. If you're getting with the API and all the sensors it was close to 60k including customs and all of that.
I would buy that today if the battery life was not abysmal. It is though; that is, at least for me, a far larger issue than all else. We cannot make laptops or phones work an entire day; robots/drones are measured in minutes.
I think for most indoor household work they only really need enough to move from station to station. Once they are at the bed to fold clothes or in the kitchen washing dishes, they should be able to plug themselves in.
That’s way too limited for $60k though. I’d pay $20k even if it had to plug itself in for most jobs, assuming it was decent at cable management and could manage its own extension cord in other situations.
I would pay double that if it were capable of household/office/workshop reorganization and managing storage with a live inventory of where it put all the crap it cleans up. It’s not quite at the point where it would be a positive ROI financially (assuming $80k TCO over 5-10 years) but it’d make life a lot more convenient and lower the activation energy for a ton of hobbies.