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It’s a one time fixed cost. Running a cloud service is not. You very rarely buy a new garage door opener.
That's true. And when the time does come that I need to buy garage door opener, it won't say Chamberlain on it.
Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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I don't believe it's completely cloud only, "local control" https://github.com/XiaoMi/ha_xiaomi_home#:~:text=Home%20Inte... sounds quite a bit like non-cloud control? Could still be behind cloud authentication, though.
Read a little further down: > Xiaomi central hub gateway is only available in mainland China. In other regions, it is not available. Nonstarter for many, myself included. ETA: Yes it does say "partial" local control can be done without the gateway software, but is not recommended and does not work unless you are on the same local network. Better than nothing, but still a nonstarter.
> If you do not have a Xiaomi central hub gateway or other devices having central hub gateway function, all control commands are sent through Xiaomi Cloud.
Now I don't actually know what central hub gateway function entails :) but it does sound like some non-Xiaomi devices could also fulfill this role.
In case of HASS I think local network is a pretty decent assumption. I have my HASS on both my local VLAN as well as the IOT VLAN.
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> I'm not buying any device that's not 3 Same here. My gold standard for this is hardware that comes with the open source Tasmota firmware (or which can be flashed to Tasmota). All 75 light switches in our new house run Tasmota firmware and to me it's the perfect combination of simple, flexible and yet deeply powerful. Devices can be controlled via MQTT, web requests, webUI console or serial and not only does it avoi…
/ All 75 light switches in our new house run Tasmota 75! Can't you just employ a butler? ;-)
But yeah, building a custom house. It's definitely not for the faint of heart. Having done it now, I like to advise "If you're someone with the resources to build your own custom home, you'll find the experience transforms you... into someone who no longer has the resources to even build a garden shed." :-)
To be fair, we knew this going in and only did it because we happened to have access to a deeply experienced general contractor who'd built high-end custom homes for several friends of ours over the past 15 years. And he has his own dedicated crew, most of who have worked only with him for much of that time. Although he wasn't the cheapest (nor the most expensive), he had an extremely impressive, personally verifiable track record. That's very rare to find, and without it, we probably wouldn't have even considered doing a custom home. And he did complete the project nearly on time and nearly on budget - and COVID happened during the build. Everyone else we know who was building a home during COVID ended up at least a year late and >40% over budget - so, even though technically a little late/over budget, the guy delivered at a near-miraculous level given the circumstances.
Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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That's true. And when the time does come that I need to buy garage door opener, it won't say Chamberlain on it.
What competitor allows a local LAN connection?
Chamberlain's system is cloud-based. Strictly speaking, it doesn't work on LANs -- that's not one of its functions.
Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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#326I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…
In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/
Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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I've been eyeing Valetudo for a while. I think it's a shame that it doesn't and (according to the author) never will support multiple maps. I don't want to have to buy a separate robot for each floor when I can easily carry it to the next floor when it's done.
Yeah the author is very set on his ways. I was thinking about contributing but he doesn't want any help. I read CONTRIBUTING.md and I kind of get it. Respect.
Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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I've been eyeing Valetudo for a while. I think it's a shame that it doesn't and (according to the author) never will support multiple maps. I don't want to have to buy a separate robot for each floor when I can easily carry it to the next floor when it's done.
Some robots support restoring map snapshots. I wonder what's stopping people from using this as a multi floor implementation?
Having to restore a snapshot each time I move floors is a lot more friction.
Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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If it can be done quickly enough that ya only need to charge 20 or 30 bucks, it might be a business model to reflash gizmos like this ?
You mean exploiting FOSS for personal profit would be a business model? Yes, yes most definitely it would be. We see that all the time in the world. Extract money with the easy tasks and leave the hard stuff (actually building things, long-term support, you name it) to "someone else". And it's perfectly legal too; Just a shameful thing to do. privatize profits, socialize costs
I want to use something Valetudo to keep my local system supportable and maintainable, but I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars trying to figure out which robot vacuum might have just the right firmware revision that I can dismantle and flash it so it'll work.
Given the cost of getting it wrong, buying a preflashed "definitely works" unit is of considerable value to me.
If the author of Valetudo wanted to license a run of vacuums from a manufacturer that definitely worked, I would buy that. If someone else goes into business managing the buying and flashing part with some sort of support, that's also valuable to me.
If this market segment is currently unserved (seems to be) then I'll become a customer of whoever starts serving it, because that has value to me. Ideally, that would also include kicking back funding to ensure good support from the Valetudo platform (which tends to be how these things work).
Though also frankly the idea that managing the logistics and supply of a product pipeline is "easy" is...well, why hardware is hard has been covered extensively before.
Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant
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I experimented a bit with ZHA (native Zigbee integration) but soon realised I needed something better, and Z2M was that something. It had all been working wonderfully, until I had a problem recently that meant I had to redo the entire Zigbee setup. I run HAOS on a VM, with the Zigbee radio being passed through from the host. Recently I wanted to play with Thread so I added a radio and passed it through to the VM as w…
> At this point the hardware side of things was fine but my Zigbee network was gone. How come the hardware was ok but the network was gone? Did some Z2M config files go wrong because of two dongles? Did you try to restore VM from snapshots? Losing the network and having to re-pair everything would be a nightmare for me given the number of Zigbee devices I run (~35) and that some of them are mounted in switch boxes in…