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Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

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Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

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I'm waiting to see one with Montana plates, which for those not in the know is generally used as a tax dodge for luxury vehicles. Montana will let non-residents register a vehicle that isn't present in the state under an LLC. Once a plate is issued, the other 49 states have to recognize it. Considering the ridiculous pricing of road legal SxS UTVs it should still be cheaper to go through that process on a kei truck.

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#32

Ban the victims not the perpetrators (cybertruck)

Cybertruck is the same size as the F-150.

Pointier corners though. Nearly 30 years after the Miata gave up its pop up headlights because pedestrian safety was something we cared about at the time, instead of only the vehicle occupants’ safety and their desire to look cool.

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

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post #22

The part that drives me up the wall is how much the group of people who complain about the safety impact of people over-provisioning their personal vehicles (massive pickups and whatnot) overlaps with the group who complains about any automobile design that trades away safety in pursuit of another engineering goal. I can understand drawing a line on a subjective issue but at least be ideologically about it if you wan…

I’m firmly in the former group and follow a lot of like-minded people on social media. I can’t think of any time anyone in that group complained about motorcycles or kei trucks. I’m not sure there’s that much overlap between the two groups.

Yeah I'm in some of those circles. If you say "should we ban kei trucks?" they will say no but if you frame it as "isn't Kia f-ing evil for cutting corner X?" they will agree. And you can wash rinse repeat that dozens of times before someone pipes up and says "hey, this is kind of how we got this stupid situation where only big cars are highly profitable to build". So basically they support the status quo unless you frame it like that.

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

#34

I'm waiting to see one with Montana plates, which for those not in the know is generally used as a tax dodge for luxury vehicles. Montana will let non-residents register a vehicle that isn't present in the state under an LLC. Once a plate is issued, the other 49 states have to recognize it. Considering the ridiculous pricing of road legal SxS UTVs it should still be cheaper to go through that process on a kei truck.

Or Delaware

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

#35

I'm waiting to see one with Montana plates, which for those not in the know is generally used as a tax dodge for luxury vehicles. Montana will let non-residents register a vehicle that isn't present in the state under an LLC. Once a plate is issued, the other 49 states have to recognize it. Considering the ridiculous pricing of road legal SxS UTVs it should still be cheaper to go through that process on a kei truck.

They'll probably screw Montana via back room political wrangling like everyone thinks happened with Vermont.

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

#36
post #6

Anyone who thinks that kei trucks shouldn't be on roads and highways and motorcycles should ought to have their head examined. For the record I support both, with the exception of 3 wheel delta configuration motorcycles such as Harley's 3 wheeler. Riding one is a death wish; selling one should be a crime.

Why draw the line? The way I see it if it has the right lights and can keep up with traffic it's fair game.

Something like this could surely be useful in climates without much inclement weather.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806303665822.html

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

#37
post #23

I totally want to get a Kei truck to scoot around town in. Issues seem to be they run $x,xxx-$xx,xxx to get an automatic one in the US and my state wont allow it on highways/some roads.

The principal reason why I can’t see myself daily-driving a kei truck: I’d have to get extremely good at reversing through drive-through establishments. Everything in the U.S. is built for left-hand drive.

They are small enough that you can reach through the passenger side easily while sitting in the driver's side. Source: I own one.

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

#38
> “ Let’s be honest, most people aren’t using these big trucks to the best of their capabilities,” Odom said.

understatement of the year. Many folks in tech, finance buy these trucks as some status icon to fulfill some insecurity.

The amount of tech junk filled in these monstrosities is almost mind blowing. If even one of these systems goes to shit (ie, front camera system) then they are effectively blind.

These vehicles need to be reclassified as requiring a CDL and renewed and drivers tested on a yearly basis.

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if non-cars, like SUVs and pickups, paid more for insurance (but they pay less, because being tanks they protect their occupants even as they lay waste to everything else - unfortunately insurers care more about the former than the latter).

Sounds incorrect. I think the insurance rate is based on the value of the vehicle and SUVs and trucks are much more expensive than compacts and sedans.

"On average, SUVs are less expensive to insure than other vehicles, especially sedans or trucks."[1]

1: https://www.caranddriver.com/car-insurance/a36331753/are-suv...

Re: Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.

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post #26
post #6

Anyone who thinks that kei trucks shouldn't be on roads and highways and motorcycles should ought to have their head examined. For the record I support both, with the exception of 3 wheel delta configuration motorcycles such as Harley's 3 wheeler. Riding one is a death wish; selling one should be a crime.

What's so bad about these? Without any experience in riding motorcycles I would expect 2 in the back, in the front to be more stable, like riding a trike.

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