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Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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And you can learn how to hack the NetBSD kernel just by reading the man pages. That's how good BSD documentation is.

Those screen shots make me 90s in my pants. That's what a real powerhouse workstation looked like in my college years.

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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And you can learn how to hack the NetBSD kernel just by reading the man pages . That's how good BSD documentation is. Those screen shots make me 90s in my pants. That's what a real powerhouse workstation looked like in my college years.

I agree, this machine is absolutly beautiful, great to see it running a motif desktop and gr_osview! Good memories

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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> It may not be mainstream enough for a daily driver

Horses for courses - it's my daily driver for development and administration. To be fair though, I relegate the vast majority of consuming the web to a mobile device.

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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And you can learn how to hack the NetBSD kernel just by reading the man pages . That's how good BSD documentation is. Those screen shots make me 90s in my pants. That's what a real powerhouse workstation looked like in my college years.

I had that experience with OpenBSD as well. The summer after university I played around with it on a HP Chromebook 13 G1, fixed a bug that broke it's eMMC storage and wrote a touchpad driver - which ended up working more reliably that the driver Linux had. I think I more or less stuck to the base system + Firefox, so cwm as a window manager, nvi as an editor, etc.

I use NixOS for my own machines these days, but I do miss the simplicity of OpenBSD.

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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> It doesn't overwhelm you with thousands of packages and dozens of boot services right in a fresh install. On the contrary, it does only what you tell it to do. It puts you in charge and makes you feel like you can understand it top to bottom.

Yeah I feel the same way though to a lesser extent about FreeBSD.

It's a great OS that doesn't try to do too much and push the latest fads on you like the mainstream Linux distros. But it's also very useable as daily driver and it is that for me.

The only thing I don't like is that it gets bloated with lots of linuxisms if you try to use something like gnome or bsd. Dbus and pulseaudio, stuff like that. It makes for a bit of a weird mix and match.

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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And you can learn how to hack the NetBSD kernel just by reading the man pages . That's how good BSD documentation is. Those screen shots make me 90s in my pants. That's what a real powerhouse workstation looked like in my college years.

Are the FreeBSD sources also readable?

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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I recently installed NetBSD on a Thinkpad T430s, it is surprisingly snappy and usable, except when firefox is running.

With i3wm, tmux and helix with clangd it is a capable development machine with a surprisingly modern feel, only the compile times give away that the machine is from the early 2010s. Even WiFi is working, and pkgsrc is fast and well-stocked with the newest software.

Re: Running NetBSD on IBM ThinkPad 380Z

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> In general it's safer to use a smaller root partition and a separate one for /home. However, NetBSD worked just fine off a single full-disk partition.

Right until there is an update or anything and a bootloader or one of its required files gets written past the 8GB barrier, rendering your system unbootable.

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