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Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

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This will be interesting. As an aging nondriver living in Yokohama, I’ve been both hoping that self-driving cars become available here before I develop mobility issues and wondering how feasible they will be. Since I don’t drive, I don’t have a sense of what the roads here are like from the vehicle’s perspective. But many of the streets, including in the neighborhood where I live [1], are narrow, have no sidewalks, a…

Waymo is doing alright in San Francisco as well. That's not directly comparable to Tokyo, either, but I expect it's a much less distant of a comparison than Phoenix.

Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#22
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Going to be very interesting to see how the Japanese people react to this. The service the taxi drivers provide when you take the taxi in Japan is on another level, such as waiting for you with the open door and closing the door for you as you enter. A driverless car will never be able to copy that. Japan also has very good public transportation reducing the need for a car for day to day travel so cost might be less…

What I've read is that some/most taxis in Japan have an automatic back door for the passenger. https://musa4trip.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/taxis-in-japan-do...

Searching, I see references to automatic doors preventing robberies but no explanations as to how that would be. Perhaps the barriers between the back seat passengers and driver prevent knife threats? I wouldn't expect robbers in Japan to have guns, like they would in the US.

Oh, maybe you mean the automatic doors are "waiting for you with the open door"? A lot of cars have hatchbacks that close using a remote, either on the dash or on a fob. It was big news that people were demonstrating the CyberTruck cutting carrots or hot dogs because people are used to hatchbacks closing and opening safely. It seems a lot simpler to automate doors opening and closing safely than autonomously driving in Tokyo.

Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience the cars are highly regulated and very predictable on the main roads. Marked out lanes, low speed limits, many red lights. But pedestrians and bikes are everywhere , and they don't always obey the rules. I wonder how well collision detection handles sharing lanes with bikes without suddenly braking in the middle of the road.

I was in a Waymo last week in San Francisco that had a bicyclist cut in front of us, no hard breaking or jerk just a gradual decrease in speed. I would've hit the break relatively fast myself but Waymo handled it without issue in a very smooth way. Also see https://x.com/dmitri_dolgov/status/1868778679868047545 I don't know how it'll handle significantly more pedestrians, but I assume that they're confident enough in…

I bike in SF regularly and I actually cut in front of Waymos intentionally since I know they will slow down gracefully vs regular drivers who might not see me for a number of reasons or trigger road rage. Several months ago a Waymo would over correct but now they're so good at anticipating where I'm heading.

Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#24
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Can you elaborate on what is expected outside of being mandated?

In my experience the cars are highly regulated and very predictable on the main roads. Marked out lanes, low speed limits, many red lights. But pedestrians and bikes are everywhere , and they don't always obey the rules. I wonder how well collision detection handles sharing lanes with bikes without suddenly braking in the middle of the road.

> I wonder how well collision detection handles sharing lanes with bikes without suddenly braking in the middle of the road.

I would say that is the easy problem.

> In my experience the cars are highly regulated and very predictable on the main roads. Marked out lanes, low speed limits, many red lights.

A city without this is the harder problem.

I wait for the day Waymo comes to Italy or better yet India.

Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#25
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience the cars are highly regulated and very predictable on the main roads. Marked out lanes, low speed limits, many red lights. But pedestrians and bikes are everywhere , and they don't always obey the rules. I wonder how well collision detection handles sharing lanes with bikes without suddenly braking in the middle of the road.

I live in rural Japan, and in my experience, drivers are also crazy: * They stop on the side of roads and streets whenever they feel like it without worrying about blocking the traffic. * They don't turn the lights on no matter how bad the weather is. Super fun to be in the middle of a snow storm and people are driving white cars with the lights off. * Whenever someone wants to turn right at an intersection, the cars…

How would passing on the left would risk a collision with a car coming from an opposite direction? The opposite lane is on the right hand side (in Japan)?

Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#27
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on what is expected outside of being mandated?

In my experience the cars are highly regulated and very predictable on the main roads. Marked out lanes, low speed limits, many red lights. But pedestrians and bikes are everywhere , and they don't always obey the rules. I wonder how well collision detection handles sharing lanes with bikes without suddenly braking in the middle of the road.

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Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#29
post #11

Going to be very interesting to see how the Japanese people react to this. The service the taxi drivers provide when you take the taxi in Japan is on another level, such as waiting for you with the open door and closing the door for you as you enter. A driverless car will never be able to copy that. Japan also has very good public transportation reducing the need for a car for day to day travel so cost might be less…

What I've read is that some/most taxis in Japan have an automatic back door for the passenger. https://musa4trip.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/taxis-in-japan-do... Searching, I see references to automatic doors preventing robberies but no explanations as to how that would be. Perhaps the barriers between the back seat passengers and driver prevent knife threats? I wouldn't expect robbers in Japan to have guns, like they w…

It’s for liability reasons. The driver is responsible for any damage caused to property or vehicles by passengers opening their door

Re: Waymo will bring autonomous vehicles to Tokyo

#30

Curious whether they will open doors automatically. It's a faux pas to try opening a taxi door yourself in Japan.

As someone mentioned in a comment up the chain, it's for liability reasons - if a passenger damages something with the door, the driver is on the hook.

Seeing how an autonomous vehicle is similarly liable for its impact on the environment it stands to reason this can and will be easily dealt with.

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