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In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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Re: In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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Counting calories can not be a long term solution for obesity. A workable solution must be based on easier to implement facts such as the more sweets one eats, the more one craves sweets. I would recommend the No S Diet: www.nosdiet.com "I would have them eat a lower-calorie diet. They should eat whatever they normally eat, but eat less. You must carefully measure this. Eat as little as you can get away with, and try to exercise more." -Dr. Jules Hirsch. This is incredibly poor advice, based in physics, and ignoring psychology.

Re: In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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Oh come on

Yes, a calorie is a calorie (as long as dietary: macro/micro nutrients needs are supplied), still there may be advantages to the diet, as it is pointed in the article

"They report that people on the Atkins diet were burning off more calories. Ergo, the diet is a good thing." (it's not necessarily all good especially if you think low-carb diet==eating bacon at will, still)

Also, there may be other advantages, like hunger sensation in different diets.

Dieting is calorie balancing but there are several other aspects that should be considering and dismissing 'low-carb' diets because you're only focusing on the calorie balancing is naive.

Re: In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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This is taking dieting completely out of context. It's akin to saying that 1 gallon of fuel will result in the same amount of distance driven no matter how you drive.

There are advantages to cutting out high GI carbs, since they lead to a spike in insulin which results in food cravings, tiredness and hunger. Switch the sugary cereal for the oats in the morning and you'll experience this first hand.

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We should eat well balanced diets that are tailored to each of us as individuals. I tried high fat high protein before and it didn't work very well with my metabolism, to spare you some details.

Listen to your body, and give it what it needs. Experiment a bit. That's what I learned after trying fad diets. The realization is we are individuals each with our own metabolism that is slightly different.

What I found is that low carb diets are a big sham. The key is not to avoid carbs, but to avoid SUGAR and HFCS. Lots of "carbs" we eat come from absolute garbage, like white bread.

Trust me, a diet of mostly high fiber green vegetables is NOT going to effect your health adversely. It will do only the opposite, no matter how many damn carbs are in it.

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We should eat well balanced diets that are tailored to each of us as individuals. I tried high fat high protein before and it didn't work very well with my metabolism, to spare you some details. Listen to your body, and give it what it needs. Experiment a bit. That's what I learned after trying fad diets. The realization is we are individuals each with our own metabolism that is slightly different. What I found is th…

I should add, I also tried "juicing" which was popularized by films such as fat, sick, and nearly dead. What they don't tell you in that movie is that juicing the vegetables removes most of the fiber and results in you drinking what is essentially a somewhat fibrous cup of sugar and nutrients. After just a couple juices you will be bouncing off the walls....

Re: In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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We should eat well balanced diets that are tailored to each of us as individuals. I tried high fat high protein before and it didn't work very well with my metabolism, to spare you some details. Listen to your body, and give it what it needs. Experiment a bit. That's what I learned after trying fad diets. The realization is we are individuals each with our own metabolism that is slightly different. What I found is th…

You are contradicting yourself by stating that diets should be tailored to our needs but at the same time you slag off a diet that might fit someone else.

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I have always wondered why the Adkins diet seems to work. The article basically says it is both more successful and yet has no physiological reason for being more successful. So why?

My first guess would be: carbs/bread is cheap and usually comes in large quantities, like unlimited bread baskets. Meat is expensive and comes in smaller quantities. So eating mostly meat just makes it easier to consume fewer calories by default. But again that's just a guess.

Re: In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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Oh come on Yes, a calorie is a calorie (as long as dietary: macro/micro nutrients needs are supplied), still there may be advantages to the diet, as it is pointed in the article "They report that people on the Atkins diet were burning off more calories. Ergo, the diet is a good thing." (it's not necessarily all good especially if you think low-carb diet==eating bacon at will, still) Also, there may be other advantage…

He says that he can explain away the difference in calorie burning as an effect of the measuring method later in the article.

Re: In Dieting, Magic Isn’t a Substitute for Science

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Oh come on Yes, a calorie is a calorie (as long as dietary: macro/micro nutrients needs are supplied), still there may be advantages to the diet, as it is pointed in the article "They report that people on the Atkins diet were burning off more calories. Ergo, the diet is a good thing." (it's not necessarily all good especially if you think low-carb diet==eating bacon at will, still) Also, there may be other advantage…

"Ergo, the diet is a good thing" is what the proposers of that diet say. On the contrary, Dr. Hirsch says that "when carbohydrate levels are low in a diet and fat content is high, people lose water. That can confuse attempts to measure energy output" ergo, the measurements were mistaken and there is not advantage from a low-carbs diet (as proved from Dr. Hirschs's experiments in a controlled environment).
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