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Re: The Year of McDonald's

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, apparently US totals are Subway 20k, Starbucks 15k, McD's 13k, Dunkin 9k, Taco Bell / Burger King 7k, Dominos / Pizza Hut / Wendy's 6k, then others.

Subway is a good reminder that location matters too. While they have a lot of locations, they are not nearly as selective in where they go.

Subway is also an optimization in franchise virality and typically doesn't own its own real estate.

I.e. they will let you open a Subway franchise today and me another one across the street tomorrow.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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This is an interesting read, I kind of feel like the author is capturing something interesting about what Mickey D's has become in the last decade or two, but also laying it on a little too thick with the "what does it all mean for America". They're a franchise and huge corporation that keeps a lot of storefronts clean and open, employs a lot of people in thankless low-paying jobs, and puts out pretty middling food that I swear was so much better back in the 90s.

I'll share a quick personal story of my relationship with the restaurant. About 15 years ago I was struggling to find any jobs after college, my bank account was bone dry, and I felt fat from my habit of eating too much fast food. I went to a McDonald's and got some 20-piece chicken mcnugget special (I think it was less than $5). I ate one piece and suddenly felt overwhelmed at all these thoughts and threw the rest of it out. I felt like I was at the bottom. I didn't eat at a McDonald's or any other fast food for another 5 years, lost a bunch of weight and got my career moving. On the rare occasion I go there anymore (usually because someone else wants to go), I feel like I'm eating bland nothing food and some deeper part of me feels sick.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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post #62

This is an interesting read, I kind of feel like the author is capturing something interesting about what Mickey D's has become in the last decade or two, but also laying it on a little too thick with the "what does it all mean for America". They're a franchise and huge corporation that keeps a lot of storefronts clean and open, employs a lot of people in thankless low-paying jobs, and puts out pretty middling food t…

Yeah, it isn't elitism that makes my stomach feel horrible when I eat fast food.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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The author is really laying the populist manipulation on thick. After about two paragraphs, I felt as greasy as a McDonald's hash brown.

Chris Arnade, who is the author of the article, has been writing about some of these topics for almost a decade now. He is worth checking out.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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What a bizarre statement about a place of business that's tried to irrelevance themselves into non-existence this year. Fast food pricing is now equal or beyond the prices of quality food with non-chain fast food (i.e. doner/local pizza joints) becoming the new affordable option.

It's indeed crazy how expensive McDo meals had become. When I was a student I used to eat 2/3 hamburgers 1€ each, and something the 2€ local thing too. Now those doubled or tripled. A maxi best of is at least 12€ . Sorry but at this price I'll eat anywhere else. The only thing I'm eating these days is the 5€ menu with 4 items in it, the happy meal at 4€ when there's Pokémon cards as toy and the Mac First when it is a…

Or you make your own meals.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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> At the end of October, there was the viral, and controversial, Trump campaign stop, where he “worked” for 30 minutes at a McDonald’s in Pennsylvania. Then, this week, there was the news that Luigi Mangione, the alleged assassin of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, was caught in a McDonald’s—also, coincidentally, in Pennsylvania—because he was spotted by a group of morning regulars and employees Didn't Kamala Har…

It felt really odd that the author neglected to mention the reason the stunt should have fallen flat was that he was using it to mock Harris for actually having worked at McDonalds, not cosplaying at it.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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When I was quite young (maybe 5-9) my family did a lot of trips to the U.S. for my dad’s IBM server training stuff. Something that made me anxious was the border crossing because my dad got all serious and told us to be quiet and it felt intimidating. As a consequence of being so young I couldn’t distinguish between Customs and a toll booth so they made me anxious too. And one day we were driving up to what looked li…

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Re: The Year of McDonald's

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subway is a good reminder that location matters too. While they have a lot of locations, they are not nearly as selective in where they go.

Subway is also an optimization in franchise virality and typically doesn't own its own real estate. I.e. they will let you open a Subway franchise today and me another one across the street tomorrow.

Also something of an exercise in my experience of how bad sandwich franchises can be.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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post #59

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McDonald's functions as sort of public square, which is missing elsewhere in society, as the employees are to detached or inattentive to care if people are loitering too long. Same for Starbucks.

The author suggests the opposite, at least for McDonald's - the employees do care and are attentive to the needs of the people in the restaurant, and that's part of why the community springs up there. I'd expect McDonald's corporate policy is to hustle people along, and it's inattentiveness to that policy that enables the public square, not inattentiveness to the people in the square.

for what it's worth, I have not seen this at any McDonald's beyond the expected service of preparing the food.

Re: The Year of McDonald's

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author suggests the opposite, at least for McDonald's - the employees do care and are attentive to the needs of the people in the restaurant, and that's part of why the community springs up there. I'd expect McDonald's corporate policy is to hustle people along, and it's inattentiveness to that policy that enables the public square, not inattentiveness to the people in the square.

for what it's worth, I have not seen this at any McDonald's beyond the expected service of preparing the food.

The author of the article is a published author who writes about poverty and addiction - he links to a good excerpt from his book in the Guardian, which might better establish his bonafides for these kinds of claims: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/05/america-dign...
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