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Re: Konwinski Prize

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We should have a discussion and debate about it. The point is, IF people decide that it IS dangerous, then there is no mechanism to stop it.

Huh? There are well known mechanisms after that point. Such as a resolution of the UN Security Council.

Really? Let's say the bottom 70% of earners in the U.S. decided that AI was dangerous and its development should be stopped. Do you think the top 30% would allow that?

Re: Konwinski Prize

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There are around 5000 active kernel devs, they are generally highly skilled and therefore highly paid, and they've been working for a lot longer than 10 years. So doesn't seem that unlikely based on your estimates.

Highly paid like a million a year? Is that a thing?

Linux kernel has been in development since the nineties, not just for the last ten years. Also 5000 contributors is a lot more than 2000 from gp's comment.

Let's ignore the years before dotcom boom since the dev community was probably much smaller, and assume an average of 3500 contributors since.

That's 25 years * 3500 contributors on average * 200k salary (total employee cost, not take home) = $17.5b

Napkin math, but order of magnitude checks out.

Re: Konwinski Prize

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The Kaggle competition page has more details: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/konwinski-prize The prizes scale with the model’s score; the total prize pool is between $100,000 and $1,225,000, depending on the top scores.

>$1M for the AI that can close 90% of new GitHub issues If your AI can do this, it's worth several orders of magnitude more. Just FYI.

(reposting from locallama and lower down here) yep that's true.

one of my goals is to inspire and honor those that work on open source AI. Those people tend to be motivated by things like impact and the excitement of being part of something big. i know that's how i always feel when i'm around Berkeley and get to meet or work with OG BSD hackers or the people who helped invent core internet protocols.

those people are doing this kind of OSS work and sharing it with the world anyway, without any cash prize. i think of this as a sort of thank you gift for them. and also a way to maybe convince a few people to explore that path who might not have otherwise.

Re: Konwinski Prize

#35

What would be an example of cheating since it says "no cheating".

That has a double meaning - half tongue in cheek.

1) since we are creating a contamination-free version of SWE-bench (i.e. scraping a new test set after submissions are frozen) it is guaranteed that agents in this contest can't "cheat", i.e., models can't have trained on the benchmark / agents cant memorize answers.

2) as a general rule in life, don't cheat on things (not that there aren't exceptions)

Re: Konwinski Prize

#37
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>$1M for the AI that can close 90% of new GitHub issues If your AI can do this, it's worth several orders of magnitude more. Just FYI.

Exactly, I'll personally buy it for $2Million for anyone that can get it and assign me the full code/weight and rights.

I hope the competition will inspire people to make breakthroughs in the open, so I won't take any rights to the IP, instead the winning solutions must use open source code and open weight models.

Re: Konwinski Prize

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The Kaggle competition page has more details: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/konwinski-prize The prizes scale with the model’s score; the total prize pool is between $100,000 and $1,225,000, depending on the top scores.

>$1M for the AI that can close 90% of new GitHub issues If your AI can do this, it's worth several orders of magnitude more. Just FYI.

If you're the only one that can come close. Kaggle competition prizes are about focusing smart people on the same problem. But it's very rare for one team to blow all the others out of the water. So if you wanted to make a business out of the problem kaggle will (probably) show the best you could do and still have no moat.

Re: Konwinski Prize

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Huh? There are well known mechanisms after that point. Such as a resolution of the UN Security Council.

Really? Let's say the bottom 70% of earners in the U.S. decided that AI was dangerous and its development should be stopped. Do you think the top 30% would allow that?

How does this relate to the Security Council or any other known mechanisms that operate in the world?
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