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Post by efitz »

azinman2 wrote: post #112
efitz wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don’t you want myQ anywhere near your network? Precisely because they're rent-seeking. I have a wifi-enabled garage door opener that I paid a lot of money for. Why should I have to pay MyQ every month to effectively just let something other than their app or their proprietary switch open the door?

“Near my network” suggested it was a security issue. Are there other companies running a cloud-based api for garage doors that don’t charge? It does cost money to keep the servers going. I personally just took a cheap remote, attached its button to an esp32 with a relay, put on mqtt, and interfaced it with homebridge. Now it shows up in the home app. Works well! iCloud via Apple TV connects it to the internet securel…

Nope, my concern wasn’t security, it was corporate greed

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Post by AdrianB1 »

birdman3131 wrote: post #101
dietr1ch wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not buying any device that's not 3, everything else turns into a brick as soon as there's some larger change. I have some older Google Speakers, and while they seemed to be 2, after being powered off for long enough they can't be set up again, not even with internet access since their firmware was also outdated and the app isn't able to set them up again.

I am ok with devices that default to 2 but can be converted to 3. Don't recall if Shelly's default to 2 or 3 but I like that you can flash em to tasmota for a gaurenteed 3.

Most devices are in the category 3, except for BLU that are currently in 2. I have almost 1 of everything they make and I did set up the BLU ones using 2 with their app, I did not test to see if their app works without Internet, but I doubt the BLU can be configured without their app.

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Post by hn_user2 »

ahaucnx wrote: post #94
jillyboel wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything can fit in group 3, but manufacturers want to steal your data so they try to pretend otherwise.

Not all manufacturers. At AirGradient, all our air quality monitors can completely run local. Our official firmware is on GitHub and people could even flash their own (adjusted) version. We believe this is how IoT devices should be and are very vocal about it. So I think there are a few manufacturers that think different.

If those devices ran off POE they would be divine. Trying to keep walls looking clean in our custom build and usb power is a drag.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by AdrianB1 »

WaitWaitWha wrote: post #89

If you are thinking of deploying Home Assistant (HA), let me give you a few tips that I should have known when started. HA environment is vast. There are myriads of options, features, and functions. There are some gotchas that can be costly down the road. All of the following are "for now, as you start out": Do not gyrate over which version of HA to run. Run the HAOS loaded on RasPi, or a dedicated machine. You can m…

I started with HA in a VM and some WiFi devices, added BLU later, never had the need for Zigbee. More than a year later and over 40 devices in 2 locations (with VPN between, using the same HA server), I am more than happy with the results.

Conclusion: people have different needs and go different paths.

Re: Xiaomi Home Integration for Home Assistant

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Post by zamalek »

Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

> Philips Hue

At the moment you can pair them with any ZigBee controller, which I found to be much simpler. This is one firmware update away from not working (which is why I mostly relied on Z-Wave) so YMMV.

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Post by progman32 »

michaelmior wrote: post #19
Someone1234 wrote: post #9

I include this when considering buying something integrated. For example Philips Hue is overpriced, but their Home Assistant integration is top tier and ultra-reliable. Contrast that with myQ garage door openers (LiftMaster, Chamberlain and Craftsman) recently breaking Home Assistant support on purpose, to essentially replace it with nothing, and they're dead to me. So Xiaomi adding support, assuming it is reliable,…

In case anyone using a myQ opener comes across this, I feel the need to mention ratgdo which many have found to be a great inexpensive upgrade. https://ratcloud.llc/

Second this product. I wanted an Ethernet version so I made my own (it's integrated into esphome and the circuit is documented here https://github.com/Kaldek/rat-ratgdo). Apart from general usage, I use mine to tilt the garage door a small amount if it detects bad air quality in my shop (using an IKEA air quality sensor via home assistant).

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Post by ahaucnx »

biotinker wrote: post #111
ahaucnx wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all manufacturers. At AirGradient, all our air quality monitors can completely run local. Our official firmware is on GitHub and people could even flash their own (adjusted) version. We believe this is how IoT devices should be and are very vocal about it. So I think there are a few manufacturers that think different.

And this is exactly why I like to buy AirGradient hardware. Your CO2 sensors are some of the best I've found for the price point, and I love your outdoor monitor as well. That said; I have started moving towards using SEN5x for a lot of my air monitoring. I've noticed the SHT3x temp sensors pretty consistently flake out after 2-3 years, and the footprint of your current DIY kit is rather larger. Would you consider an…

Actually since a year or so, we use the ESP32-C3 and the SHT40. You can check our website for the new model [1].

[1] https://www.airgradient.com/documentation/

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Post by AdrianB1 »

pammf wrote: post #96

I love Home Assistant but I now have a pretty strict minimum effort rule after years of configuring integrations and building dashboards that I would forget about after 2 months: I only do automations (no dashboards at all), and try to keep them as simple as possible. Once I feel I’m reaching diminishing returns territory, I stop. Only use HA if I need to mix different vendors (e.g. turn on the hue lights if the tuya…

How many apps do you have installed to control everything? And how is the stuff integrating if you have equipment from different vendor that need to talk to each other, like AC units with PV inverter to start and shutdown based on electricity net production and real temperature in the rooms (using external thermometers, not the one in the AC)? And how do you consolidate and monitor power consumption in a single place, are you using a different solution for that?

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Post by sneak »

diggan wrote: post #40
WaitWaitWha wrote: post #14

In my opinion this is not Xiaomi into Home Assistant (HA). To me, an integration would mean that I need nothing from Xiaomi, all activities are within HA. from the Github page[0]: > Xiaomi Home Integration and the affiliated cloud interface is provided by Xiaomi officially. You need to use your Xiaomi account to login to get your device list. Xiaomi Home Integration implements OAuth 2.0 login process, which does not…

I think (some correct me) you can group most devices into the following categories: 1. Device requires internet for setup, and for usage 2. Device requires internet for setup, but after that don't need it anymore 3. Device can be fully setup without internet, and used without internet Personally I aim to be fully within 3 as much as I can, but some devices are really hard to find at a good price point that falls into…

Home Assistant itself falls into category 2, with some integrations/utilities in category 1. The amount of stuff it pulls from the mothership and GitHub is crazy. I wish it were local-only by default.

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Post by Fabricio20 »

tetris11 wrote: post #26

Just use ZigBee or Z-wave devices and then use a bridge to connect to HA. Anything else is just WiFi and vendor lockdown

Personal anecdote but at least for me WiFi devices are significantly more reliable and there exists good brands that don't have any vendor lockdown, such as Shelly or Sonoff. Others can do Tasmota. So you shouldn't go around discarding it just because it's wifi. I live in a concrete and metal house. My WiFi coverage is spotless with several APs around the house.

Can't really do that with ZigBee. Almost all of my zigbee devices just fail to connect every other day. Z-wave offers that mesh network promise but man is it out of reach in the price range.

WiFi is everywhere/in every house, I seriously think more vendors should offer devices that just integrate into it instead of trying to build this bespoke network on the same band. Specially since 2.4GHz is going into disuse more and more as people switch to 5GHz for phones/pcs/etc..

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