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I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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Very cool! If someone is looking for something similar with less hassle, let me plug my friend’s product :) https://www.inklay.app/ I’ve been using it for the better part of a year now to show the weather, a dashboard and some comics and am very happy with it, it just works and looks great too

I know it may be at odds with "less hassle", but any thoughts/plans on making it compatible with Home Assistant? Would be nice to have an option to show an HA dashboard there.

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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> The problem is that my son’s mobile phone is governed by strict parental controls, making this daily lookup an unpopular chore on my side This was a neat project, but I feel like this is insanely overkill for a solution that is “whitelist the app required for school”. I sort of feel bad for this kid. I mean, I graduated high school in 15+ years ago and we had a website that we had to regularly check for assignments…

I say, kudos to the parent for being restrictive about phone use. At least they are aware of the problem and doing something -- debating the exact technical limits imposed is just nitpicking. But not doing anything is irresponsible.

Do you yourself have or teach teenage kids these days? It's a bit like all kids are brought up on heroine -- everyone addicted to doomscrolling/TikTok, teachers spend all their time trying to get attention. Phones and social media have quite drastically altered the reality the kids grow up in in a quite unhealthy way. It's dystopic IMO.

Most of us on HN can be grateful for having been able to fully develop our faculties in an age where instant dopamine shots weren't available 24/7.

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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Kudos to the parent for setting clear limits to their kids cell phone use.

Most of us on HN can be grateful for having been able to fully develop our faculties in an age where instant dopamine shots weren't available 24/7.

Looking at kids growing up now and stories from teachers in classrooms it's dystopic IMO. A 1/3 of teachers' time spent battling for attention against TikTok. Teenagers sitting together and not giving each other proper attention because of constant interrupts from Snapchat. No room for boredness-initiated creativity in the lives whatsoever.

I don't think Soma from Brave New World was all that far off from what's happening with smartphones.

I hope we're at the top of the curve now though, at least in Norway phone use in education and social settings is seen more and more like smoking and more and more parents at least try to delay the introduction of screens for as long as they can. And (some) high schools are finally imposing PROPER bans against smartphones during class (i.e. confiscation rather than "I promise not to use it" which simply doesn't work). It's a hard long battle at this point though; made harder by adult techno-optimists (most of whom I can only assume probably haven't properly seen teenagers these days in action)

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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Very cool! If someone is looking for something similar with less hassle, let me plug my friend’s product :) https://www.inklay.app/ I’ve been using it for the better part of a year now to show the weather, a dashboard and some comics and am very happy with it, it just works and looks great too

These are amazingly beautiful. I'd be tempted to buy one if it didn't have the brand logo etched into the wood.

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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post #73

Kudos to the parent for setting clear limits to their kids cell phone use. Most of us on HN can be grateful for having been able to fully develop our faculties in an age where instant dopamine shots weren't available 24/7. Looking at kids growing up now and stories from teachers in classrooms it's dystopic IMO. A 1/3 of teachers' time spent battling for attention against TikTok. Teenagers sitting together and not giv…

> Teenagers sitting together and not giving each other proper attention because of constant interrupts from Snapchat.

Why are phones allowed in the classroom? When I was in school, if you were caught looking at your phone in class, or if the phone made a noise from your pocket/bag, it would instantly be confiscated - no second chances.

If phones are causing problems in school, maybe the school could try establishing some basic standards of behaviour and discipline? How is this difficult?

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scheduling, and homework assignments, and textbooks [0], and handing in homework, and communicating absences, and asking the teacher a question later in the day in a groupchat, and the teacher sending an extra thing for everyone to read outside of class even just out of general interest, and communicating with peers about something in another class groupchat where the teacher isn't present, and... Some kids have zero…

Isn't it good they don't know these differences? The fact we know is mostly due to poorly designed UX, not some high level concept that needs to be known. Modern phones are a much better UX for most people.

Jesus, no. Computer illiteracy is a growing problem, kids and teens nowadays have trouble understanding even the basics of what's going on in their computers apart from "swipe here for the next addictive depressive 5-second slop". That's very very bad at a time when these devices are more and more important in their lives.

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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I've been working on getting a calendar on an Inkplate 10. Great hardware but my god is the Arduino software awful. It doesn't even have incremental builds! A one line change to my code means it completely recompiles a ton of libraries including mbedtls! The edit-compile-run cycle is like 3 minutes. Awful.

Arduino code and APIs are also really badly designed, and badly documented. The Inkplate uses an Xtensa ESP32 so the network code uses this crap:

https://github.com/espressif/arduino-esp32/blob/2.0.17/libra...

Does `int read();` block? Zero comments so you'll have to read the code, which by the way is very hard to find because of course intellisense doesn't work in the gimped VSCode that Arduino is calling their IDE (it's better than the old one at least, though it wouldn't take much).

The really frustrating thing is that Arduino has basically zero competition. I was hopeful for Mbed Studio for a while but they spent so long fucking it up with web based compilers, terrible home-brewed build systems (yotta? I think they went through several bad attempts), before finally doing the right thing (Mbed Studio) that I think everyone had given up waiting and they killed the whole project. Also it's obviously ARM only.

And I can't see that really changing. I think there's PlatformIO but I think that just wraps the Arduino code in less awfulness. As long as hardware manufacturers are writing their drivers and examples for Arduino it's going to be hard for anyone else to compete.

Ok I think my one-line change has finished compiling now...

/rant

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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post #73

Kudos to the parent for setting clear limits to their kids cell phone use. Most of us on HN can be grateful for having been able to fully develop our faculties in an age where instant dopamine shots weren't available 24/7. Looking at kids growing up now and stories from teachers in classrooms it's dystopic IMO. A 1/3 of teachers' time spent battling for attention against TikTok. Teenagers sitting together and not giv…

> Teenagers sitting together and not giving each other proper attention because of constant interrupts from Snapchat. Why are phones allowed in the classroom? When I was in school, if you were caught looking at your phone in class, or if the phone made a noise from your pocket/bag, it would instantly be confiscated - no second chances. If phones are causing problems in school, maybe the school could try establishing…

I would say the exact same thing as you. But, that is Norway for you...

I think the issue might be that in Norway the teachers would not be allowed to confiscate the phone; concerns about school being liable if device is damaged etc.

This autumn luckily the Norwegian government FINALLY, very long overdue, made it clear phones should not be allowed. In the school where my wife teaches this made a night and day difference as they started requiring the use of a "phone hotel" during class. But in other schools they for some reason do not.

Re: I replaced my son's school timetable app with an e-paper

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post #74

Very cool! If someone is looking for something similar with less hassle, let me plug my friend’s product :) https://www.inklay.app/ I’ve been using it for the better part of a year now to show the weather, a dashboard and some comics and am very happy with it, it just works and looks great too

These are amazingly beautiful. I'd be tempted to buy one if it didn't have the brand logo etched into the wood.

Yeah, that seems like a bad decision to me too.
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