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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Post by 1123581321 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #80
boredatoms wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its having to get up before noon thats the true problem, they just live in a different timezone

I always laughed at the supposed benefit from moving high school start times an hour later with the claim that teens need more sleep. They'd need to move it three or four hours later; getting up at 8:00 instead of 7:00 is not a big difference when your body wants you to sleep for another three or four hours.

Was that based on anything? An hour of sleep is a big benefit. You’ll feel a big difference if you give yourself six instead of five hours of sleep, or seven instead of six. Sleeping too late in the day isn’t as high quality; sleep until 7am still is for most people. Students stay up late, but many aren’t regularly staying up past 12. Plus, we do have to compromise with teachers who’d like to have dinner.

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gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

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Post by ryandrake »

bdangubic wrote: post #107
ryandrake wrote: post #103

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> Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way. Yea this is what I don’t get. How is a cell phone actually going to help when there’s a school shooter? I guess you can throw the phone at his head. There’s pretty much no reason a kid needs a phone in school. If the parent needs to get in touch with him they can call the offic…

they have phones in closets where kids are hiding parents can call to make sure their child is still breathing?! I am 10000% anti-phones in schools but this is silly argument to make. every parent of a child in America worries every day something may happen and when it does time it takes to reach your kid will be the longest time no parent should have to live through

I'm a parent and the last thing I'd want, if heaven forbid there was a school shooter, would be my kid (or any kid) talking on their cell phones or having the phones ringing and making noise that might cause the shooter to go investigate. A parent can literally do nothing about the situation over the phone.

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Post by lesuorac »

bawolff wrote: post #76
gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

> Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night. Sort of like how people addicted to gambling would probably save a lot of money if they had just a little more will power.

Or C code wouldn't have any bugs if developers were more careful?

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Post by zdragnar »

bdangubic wrote: post #91
zdragnar wrote: post #90

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And the vast majority of those are accidental, drive by, and "escalation of dispute" per your link. These are not the kinds of shootings that parents want kids to be texting about, these are run of the mill gang activity. The mass violence shootings that you hear about on TV where anyone and everyone might be a victim are the exception, not the norm.

guessing you just might not be a parent yet…

When you live in a city with lots of crime and there's a shooting in the parking lot of the school at one in the morning, it's not really something that needs an urgent text from the kids.

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Post by ipaddr »

bdangubic wrote: post #81
hammock wrote: post #27

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> An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers. Only in public schools. At private schools, they are customers, and paradoxically the concomitant “entitlement” is not a bug, but a feature

except customer is not always right at private schools, the school makes the rules, you get to sign the agreement and then pay a bunch of money and the stfu. my kid goes to private school, no electronics of any kind are allowed. over the years many parents bitched about it which went as good as you can imagine - “there are many other options for your child’s education…”

You have to get all the parents onboard and have other options.

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Post by aorloff »

gerdesj wrote: post #73

My company is situated across a main road from a college. There are a couple of permissive rights of way across our land to the road and quite a few students walk that way and also up the road. This horror of a link is what Google Maps shows with Street View: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9469423,-2.6380275,3a,75y,... Our place is the left hand turn off. The college is about 100m further up on the right. Pretend…

I live far enough away from you that I think your English needs tuning up, and I couldn’t agree more.

In my college town the scooters around campus, ridden both on the roadway and on the sidewalk, add another element of risk to the “headphones are not helmets” crowd.

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Post by aorloff »

eru wrote: post #9

Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?

I have a feeling certain religions are onto something in this area.

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Post by andrei_says_ »

I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored.

Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

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Post by ipaddr »

myko wrote: post #37
chollida1 wrote: post #35

In Ontario/Canada schools banned cell phones with much of any issue at all this year. My friends in the US seems shocked at the fact that kids couldn't have a phone during class hours. When I asked why their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting. Which just goes to show how much your environment affects you…

yep, my kids HS has a cloth rack hanging on the door to place phones in so the kids can grab them when a shooting is happening but doesn't have them during class

How often is their a school shooting when this would be useful?
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