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McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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Post by naijaboiler »

bdangubic wrote: post #65
JPKab wrote: post #37

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My mom got hooked in 99 after she slipped on ice at her house in Bluefield, WV. Became a full blown addict after getting prescribed for the subsequent back injury. She lost everything, disappeared, became a homeless addict drifting from DC to Baltimore to NYC and back, until she died of an overdose of heroin in a parking lot of a 7-11 in DC in December 2015. Her story and the impact on me and my 4 siblings is a drop…

I am sorry to hear this. I would have gone full Luigi on someone if this happened to me

Luigi is a verb now. I love it!

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Post by shuckles »

bdangubic wrote: post #65
JPKab wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mom got hooked in 99 after she slipped on ice at her house in Bluefield, WV. Became a full blown addict after getting prescribed for the subsequent back injury. She lost everything, disappeared, became a homeless addict drifting from DC to Baltimore to NYC and back, until she died of an overdose of heroin in a parking lot of a 7-11 in DC in December 2015. Her story and the impact on me and my 4 siblings is a drop…

I am sorry to hear this. I would have gone full Luigi on someone if this happened to me

Since when were casual references to murdering people acceptable on here?

Re: McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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Post by eichi »

rightbyte wrote: post #191
remarkEon wrote: post #152

A little unrelated to this whole thing, which does hit me a bit personally since my cousin back in Iowa died of opioid-related dependency issues, but I have interviewed a lot of consultants over the years for various roles and they are without question the most consistently bad interviews. It's funny, when I was in business school years ago (please forgive me) getting a job at McKinsey or BCG was more or less the crè…

McKinsey is sweatshop but with good pay. The work conditions are atrocious and they grind through naive young people like Verdun. Some people have argued on HN that the consultants are cya and political support for things the management class allready know they want. That seem about right.

>> consultants are cya and political support for things the management class allready know they want. That seem about right.

That is the most valuable job in virtually every profitable industries including tech.

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Post by refurb »

BSDobelix wrote: post #189
refurb wrote: post #125

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You are not wrong here, capitalism is the rule to make as much money as possible (be it by selling legal drugs, weapons, food, gambling, insurance). The role of a state and it's laws is to control and limit these companies. A lot of people think it's good to assassinate the CEO of an insurance company, but then I ask, where are the checks and balances, where is the state? If you have to have insurance, the state has…

> If you have to have insurance, the state has to make rules where it's almost impossible for the insurance company not to pay the necessary actions (like in Europe).

Exactly.

Capitalism without rules ends up with situations that we would like to avoid as a society. Thus the government should step in create guard rails and enforce them.

The government, through the FDA and DEA, played a large role in the huge increase in the abuse of Oxycontin during the 90's.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622774/

When OxyContin entered the market in 1996, the FDA approved its original label, which stated that iatrogenic addiction was “very rare” if opioids were legitimately used in the management of pain. In July 2001, to reflect the available scientific evidence, the label was modified to state that data were not available for establishing the true incidence of addiction in chronic-pain patients. The 2001 labeling also deleted the original statement that the delayed absorption of OxyContin was believed to reduce the abuse liability of the drug.19

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Post by DonHopkins »

theoreticalmal wrote: post #166
DonHopkins wrote: post #136

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Come on dude

That offends you??! Then explain why you like racism better than health care, and think platforming and worshipping Kyle Rittenhouse is justified?

The right wing are so thin skinned and hypocritical and allergic to facts, sheez.

Luigi used a gun to murder just like Rittenhouse, so why aren't you whining about his second amendment rights being violated and 3d printed gun being confiscated by the cops? He didn't even eat anyone's dogs or cats, just some McDonald's hash browns.

Get it together dude. You seem irrationally angry to the point of defending blatant hypocrisy and racism. Why does my criticism of it personally hurt your feelings, hmm? Go play Kyle Rittenhouse's Turkey Shoot game about shooting journalists to blow off some steam.

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Post by jncfhnb »

rightbyte wrote: post #191
remarkEon wrote: post #152

A little unrelated to this whole thing, which does hit me a bit personally since my cousin back in Iowa died of opioid-related dependency issues, but I have interviewed a lot of consultants over the years for various roles and they are without question the most consistently bad interviews. It's funny, when I was in business school years ago (please forgive me) getting a job at McKinsey or BCG was more or less the crè…

McKinsey is sweatshop but with good pay. The work conditions are atrocious and they grind through naive young people like Verdun. Some people have argued on HN that the consultants are cya and political support for things the management class allready know they want. That seem about right.

It varies tremendously. Imo the people who have sweatshop experiences bring it upon themselves mostly.

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Post by jkolio »

hiddencost wrote: post #129
hooli_gan wrote: post #127

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Why doesnt money work for Kim Dotcom?

Not enough of it, not hooked into the right systems. It works for Elon Musk because he has a lot more and because he controls critical piece of infrastructure (starlink, SpaceX) that the defense industry needs.

Kim also subtly represents a flavor of (classical) liberal populism that is at odds with the neoliberal empire-making much of the ultra-rich engage in. Both make the bulk of their money by exploiting resources that they have a dubious claim to (from a humanistic perspective), but the people that the latter tend to exploit were instead the beneficiaries of his exploitation. Anyone who flips the script like that is going to find themselves in the crosshairs, because it seeds dangerous ideas about what the average person deserves in the way of dignity and material/cultural goods.

He's also not old money or especially supportive of old money; he's just some script kiddy who scammed his way to the top on the back of the kind of confidence that tends to only come when you're built like an NFL lineman but can also read documentation. The seethe is easy to understand.

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Post by jncfhnb »

passwordoops wrote: post #44
sc68cal wrote: post #17

McKinsey makes something like 10 billion annually in revenue. This is a slap on the wrist. People need to be held accountable for these misdeeds.

Criminal charges for execs and board members

It’s a partnership. Ultimately the line of people involved in any particular job is extremely short.

Unlike in a tech company where the whole company is building a product, consulting companies are thousands of teams doing projects in a small isolated bubble.

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Post by DonHopkins »

jkolio wrote: post #220
theoreticalmal wrote: post #166

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Come on dude

It's a fair comparison. Daniel Penney too. The main difference between the four parties is who killed people who'd killed others, and who killed people who hadn't actually done anything.

And the right wing also platforms, defends, and worships George Zimmerman, who murdered Trayvon Martin in cold blood, paints confederate battle flags, and told the manager who intervened in a violent bar incident he started that "I didn't know you were a n*gger lover".
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