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McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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That is a private company making a decision about their work environment. You don't have the right to demand that they cater to your requirements.

I work for the government

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2023/02/feds-driven-awa...

I do not believe you.

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>just like the canadian billionaire couple who ran a drug company got whacked The Canadian couple got whacked by a competing drug company for selling cheap generic versions of expensive drugs. Or at least that is what most observers believe although last I heard, no one has ever been charged with the murders. Before the murders, people were worried the couple would be killed because they were so good at bringing to m…

And you know this, how?

Vibes based evidence

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Nothing hypothetical about that, it’s generally how US healthcare works barring people being declared mentally incompetent, court ordered treatment, etc. To address the seeming contradiction. Vaccination was never imposed by the healthcare system on patients during COVID, it was required by cruse ships, schools, and yes hospitals for staff etc.

Which wasn't justified and should probably be an illegal requirement on privacy grounds. It doesn't make a difference if people doing work were vaccinated or not. It turns out to have had little in-practice effect on transmission, so the only important question is whether the passengers on things like a cruise were vaccinated themselves. They were evidence-free policies. We had a great natural case study in Australia…

> It turns out to have had little in-practice effect on transmission

When you look at killing thousands of people as a minor consequence you may want to rethink your priorities.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life They could figure out how to divvy up their 65 life sentences. Why do they get to pay their way out of this? > According to Kavanaugh, former McKinsey senior partner Martin Elling [2] "personally deleted various Purdue related electronic materials from his McKinsey laptop with the intent to obstruct future investigations." Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsi…

This is just disgusting. Money is the root of much evil.

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If you or I killed a half a million people, we wouldn't be facing 20 years in prison. We'd be lucky to not be facing a firing squad or a noose. All I ask is that the leadership of McKinsey be treated to that same standard. Let their golden parachutes be literal.

The only way to kill 500,000 people practically is to do it by the letter of the law. Murder (especially for money) doesn't scale without being a state or quasi state actor, or something on that tier.

German speaking here. Last I checked, the Nuremberg trials weren't settled.

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I am sorry to hear this. I would have gone full Luigi on someone if this happened to me

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> lot of ppl on the left mad at billionaires too

Seems the left were always in favor of Luigi. I'm more surprised by the right in the US. The days just after the shooting, they were all in favor too, but after their media pundits took an opposing stance, they joined the bandwagon and are now ranting about "muh poor CEO".

Bunch of sheep I suppose.

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McKinsey is responsible for a lot of crimes, seemingly. Ultimately they just don't seem like a trustworthy company and I think they've avoided accountability by maintaining political connections (and donations). Another example of their untrustworthy practices - I recall accusations from a few years ago where they assured the US government that they were not doing work for the CCP, but then it turned out that they we…

Even amongst management consulting firms McKinsey is known as the unethical one. I know someone who worked for Bain and when I gave him shit for it his answer was always "hey, at least I don't work at McKinsey"

MBB alum here--

Here's the thing: these firms are set up as partnerships meaning each of the partners (but really the senior partners) has their own little world enabled by their equity and voting power. They each have their own spin on the "values," risk tolerance, communication style, "followers," etc.

Trying to paint the entire firm with the same brush is naive. Like anything else, there are good and there are bad

Plenty of good smart people at each of these firms just trying to do good work and "make it." Then you have the sociopaths willing to trade lives for their own gain who have the benefit of hiding behind brand equity and human shields (aka the other partners)

Re: McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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If you or I killed a half a million people, we wouldn't be facing 20 years in prison. We'd be lucky to not be facing a firing squad or a noose. All I ask is that the leadership of McKinsey be treated to that same standard. Let their golden parachutes be literal.

The only way to kill 500,000 people practically is to do it by the letter of the law. Murder (especially for money) doesn't scale without being a state or quasi state actor, or something on that tier.

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