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McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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>just like the canadian billionaire couple who ran a drug company got whacked The Canadian couple got whacked by a competing drug company for selling cheap generic versions of expensive drugs. Or at least that is what most observers believe although last I heard, no one has ever been charged with the murders. Before the murders, people were worried the couple would be killed because they were so good at bringing to m…

And you know this, how?

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What is this construct where someone can just pay money to avoid personal accountability for crimes?

The money is literally the accountability here.

You could have other forms of accountability sure: freedom, life, and so on. For several reasons, we have settled on money as the preferred form unless the responsible party has a good chance of harming others in future.

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A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. The rich and powerful once again are allowed to buy their freedom.

> A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. I keep reading people who say, over and over again, that the war on drugs is a failure and that it's a mistake to try criminally prosecute suppliers and send them to prison. People will always find a way to get the drugs if they want them, we're told. But then I se…

The shady business practices of McKinsey and Purdue are responsible for getting a lot of people dependent on opioids, but the overdose deaths skyrocketed once doctors were forced to cut patients off of their prescriptions and into the fentanyl-ridden black market due to pressure from DEA. Drug War propaganda has convinced us that addiction is as bad as death, but personally, I would rather live a long, happy and productive life dependent on cheap, legal opioids, like William Stewart Halsted, than die as a casualty of the War on Drugs.

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McKinsey is a deeply unethical company that has skirted meaningful accountability over the last few decades. I highly recommend reading When McKinsey Comes To Town [1] - it really opened my eyes to how hypocritical and self-serving the culture is at the firm.

Maybe a small aside..but it’s very interesting how we as a society took very little learnings from the Crack epidemic during the early years of the Opioid Crisis. It is frustrating how people would rather bury their heads into the sand and reaffirm existing biases vs interrogating the contributing factors.

[1] https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/634029/when-mckinse...

Re: McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. The rich and powerful once again are allowed to buy their freedom.

> A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. I keep reading people who say, over and over again, that the war on drugs is a failure and that it's a mistake to try criminally prosecute suppliers and send them to prison. People will always find a way to get the drugs if they want them, we're told. But then I se…

It's consistent in the sense that people love any angle that removes agency and shifts all responsibility to ephemeral constructs like "big pharma" or "war on drugs". Public flaggelation is not without consequence, however - don't be shocked when you can't find a pharmacy willing to fill a Percocet rx after your next surgery.

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A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. The rich and powerful once again are allowed to buy their freedom.

I still don’t think it’s enough, but let’s be clear. They are facing criminal charges and jail time. See the DOJ press release: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-... > Today’s resolution marks the first time a management consulting firm has been held criminally responsible for advice resulting in the commission of a crime by a client and reflects the Justice Department’s ongoing efforts to h…

Lets talk when one of them actually goes to jail. These sham trials are dime a dozen.

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I still don’t think it’s enough, but let’s be clear. They are facing criminal charges and jail time. See the DOJ press release: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-... > Today’s resolution marks the first time a management consulting firm has been held criminally responsible for advice resulting in the commission of a crime by a client and reflects the Justice Department’s ongoing efforts to h…

If you or I killed a half a million people, we wouldn't be facing 20 years in prison. We'd be lucky to not be facing a firing squad or a noose. All I ask is that the leadership of McKinsey be treated to that same standard. Let their golden parachutes be literal.

The only way to kill 500,000 people practically is to do it by the letter of the law. Murder (especially for money) doesn't scale without being a state or quasi state actor, or something on that tier.

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No. Making hard choices inherently implies options. Vaccines saved well over a million people’s lives at negligible heath impact for the wider population, that’s simply what states are going to do in an epidemic.

I can tell if you took a red pill or a blue pill :)

Neither

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A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. The rich and powerful once again are allowed to buy their freedom.

My mom got hooked in 99 after she slipped on ice at her house in Bluefield, WV. Became a full blown addict after getting prescribed for the subsequent back injury. She lost everything, disappeared, became a homeless addict drifting from DC to Baltimore to NYC and back, until she died of an overdose of heroin in a parking lot of a 7-11 in DC in December 2015. Her story and the impact on me and my 4 siblings is a drop…

JFC damn! My condolences.
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