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A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. The rich and powerful once again are allowed to buy their freedom.
Well... have you seen the news lately?
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> Opioids were known to be harmful. So, hypothetically, if a doctor prescribed me opioids I should be allowed to say I don't want to take them? Even if the manufacturers assure me it is safe, effective and they have lots of evidence of the same. Because to me that seems like a logical conclusion. I think that should be a general policy. People should be able to overrule doctors on the subject of how they are treated.
Nothing hypothetical about that, it’s generally how US healthcare works barring people being declared mentally incompetent, court ordered treatment, etc. To address the seeming contradiction. Vaccination was never imposed by the healthcare system on patients during COVID, it was required by cruse ships, schools, and yes hospitals for staff etc.
We had a great natural case study in Australia of COVID through a vaccinated population. Everyone caught it over the course of a month, the vaccines did basically nothing to stop the spread. They were pretty much only useful on an individual level which means there was never a requirement for any coercive measures.
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Opioids were known to be harmful. Purdue attacked the gatekeepers and policy makers not the science. It was mostly a story of what happens when a well funded con artist enters an environment built on trust. Suddenly pain management was viewed as very important by the medical establishment, while mostly paying lip service to all the long term consequences of said actions. After all you can’t actually know how much som…
> Opioids were known to be harmful. So, hypothetically, if a doctor prescribed me opioids I should be allowed to say I don't want to take them? Even if the manufacturers assure me it is safe, effective and they have lots of evidence of the same. Because to me that seems like a logical conclusion. I think that should be a general policy. People should be able to overrule doctors on the subject of how they are treated.
You don’t have to do anything your doctor says.
During COVID plenty of people chose to not listen to advice about vaccines and did not get vaccinated (and some did die from COVID for their efforts).
McKinsey makes something like 10 billion annually in revenue. This is a slap on the wrist. People need to be held accountable for these misdeeds.
yep. would rather it be a multiple of revenues from their role instead of a percentage.
Left hand. COVID proved that we could establish safety & efficacy of a medical treatment in about 12 months, to the point where as I recall a lot of the manufacturers have a legal exemption from any liability for damage done by vaccines. Right hand. There are these opioids have been around for decades and somehow they reached this huge level of damage. Largely the same cultures of people involved. I still think the a…
Remember that the fast tracking of the development of the vaccine was a project of the administration in power at the time. The shifting political narrative has diminished this very important part of the discussion. https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life They could figure out how to divvy up their 65 life sentences. Why do they get to pay their way out of this? > According to Kavanaugh, former McKinsey senior partner Martin Elling [2] "personally deleted various Purdue related electronic materials from his McKinsey laptop with the intent to obstruct future investigations." Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsi…
> Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsite. I find it hard to believe that the only copy was on his laptop. Not defending anyone and maybe McKinsey is different but I have never had a corporate laptop with built-in backup. I am always left to figure that out on my own.
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A slap on the wrist. After a half million Americans have died from a crisis they helped kickstart, they should be facing criminal charges and jail time. The rich and powerful once again are allowed to buy their freedom.
Became a full blown addict after getting prescribed for the subsequent back injury.
She lost everything, disappeared, became a homeless addict drifting from DC to Baltimore to NYC and back, until she died of an overdose of heroin in a parking lot of a 7-11 in DC in December 2015. Her story and the impact on me and my 4 siblings is a drop in an ocean of suffering these smug assholes inflicted on this country.
This slap on the wrist is an insult to all of us, especially us Appalachians, who saw this starting in the 90s and got ignored because “hillbillies are genetically prone to addiction” as Purdue told the FDA.
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> Opioids were known to be harmful. So, hypothetically, if a doctor prescribed me opioids I should be allowed to say I don't want to take them? Even if the manufacturers assure me it is safe, effective and they have lots of evidence of the same. Because to me that seems like a logical conclusion. I think that should be a general policy. People should be able to overrule doctors on the subject of how they are treated.
All this time did you think you were under a legal obligation to follow your doctor’s orders? You don’t have to do anything your doctor says. During COVID plenty of people chose to not listen to advice about vaccines and did not get vaccinated (and some did die from COVID for their efforts).
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Nothing hypothetical about that, it’s generally how US healthcare works barring people being declared mentally incompetent, court ordered treatment, etc. To address the seeming contradiction. Vaccination was never imposed by the healthcare system on patients during COVID, it was required by cruse ships, schools, and yes hospitals for staff etc.
Which wasn't justified and should probably be an illegal requirement on privacy grounds. It doesn't make a difference if people doing work were vaccinated or not. It turns out to have had little in-practice effect on transmission, so the only important question is whether the passengers on things like a cruise were vaccinated themselves. They were evidence-free policies. We had a great natural case study in Australia…
This is because of Delta. The original strain was substantially reduced but an order-of-magnitude efficacy jump made that moot. You’re right, however, that we should have focused on masking and air filtration since that was actually effective at preventing spread in close quarters like a school or workplace.
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> Opioids were known to be harmful. So, hypothetically, if a doctor prescribed me opioids I should be allowed to say I don't want to take them? Even if the manufacturers assure me it is safe, effective and they have lots of evidence of the same. Because to me that seems like a logical conclusion. I think that should be a general policy. People should be able to overrule doctors on the subject of how they are treated.
Nothing hypothetical about that, it’s generally how US healthcare works barring people being declared mentally incompetent, court ordered treatment, etc. To address the seeming contradiction. Vaccination was never imposed by the healthcare system on patients during COVID, it was required by cruse ships, schools, and yes hospitals for staff etc.
That’s “imposing” and it speaks to the lack of ethics in the healthcare system they joined in coercing medical treatments rather than refusing to perform treatments people were only accepting under duress.