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McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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Re: McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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Post by loeg »

roenxi wrote: post #4

Left hand. COVID proved that we could establish safety & efficacy of a medical treatment in about 12 months, to the point where as I recall a lot of the manufacturers have a legal exemption from any liability for damage done by vaccines. Right hand. There are these opioids have been around for decades and somehow they reached this huge level of damage. Largely the same cultures of people involved. I still think the a…

Potential for misuse is sort of a different outcome than traditional approval processes. That said, we have known this about opioids forever. And as far as I know, no one is suggesting there is any kind of addiction mechanism for vaccines.

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

McKinsey is responsible for a lot of crimes, seemingly. Ultimately they just don't seem like a trustworthy company and I think they've avoided accountability by maintaining political connections (and donations). Another example of their untrustworthy practices - I recall accusations from a few years ago where they assured the US government that they were not doing work for the CCP, but then it turned out that they were (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/mckinsey-...). And then earlier this year at a US Senate hearing, it turned out McKinsey has once again been doing dirty work for the CCP by advising a large number of state owned corporations, who are involved in activities like building China's militarized artificial islands: https://youtu.be/tQ5kWfotE8Y

Re: McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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Post by FireBeyond »

bdangubic wrote: post #8
courseofaction wrote: post #2

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what kind of adjustment and who are adjusters?

You and I destroying evidence when accused of a crime? Tampering, a felony in most states.

Send emails to your team and clients that even explicitly says "We need to eliminate documents and emails about this as the US Attorney has already begun investigating us?"

Oh well, no big deal, just have the company pay a fine.

Adjust that, for just one thing.

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Post by quickthrowman »

roenxi wrote: post #4

Left hand. COVID proved that we could establish safety & efficacy of a medical treatment in about 12 months, to the point where as I recall a lot of the manufacturers have a legal exemption from any liability for damage done by vaccines. Right hand. There are these opioids have been around for decades and somehow they reached this huge level of damage. Largely the same cultures of people involved. I still think the a…

> I recall a lot of the manufacturers have a legal exemption from any liability for damage done by vaccines.

Without a liability exemption, no company would manufacture vaccines, the government would need to step in as a manufacturer. With the liability exemption law, the private sector makes the vaccines while the government assumes the liability, which is a pretty good solution in my opinion.

> In the United States, low profit margins and an increase in vaccine-related lawsuits led many manufacturers to stop producing the DPT vaccine by the early 1980s.[4][unreliable source?] By 1985, vaccine manufacturers had difficulty obtaining liability insurance.[10] The price of the DPT vaccine skyrocketed as a result, leading providers to curtail purchases, thus limiting availability. Only one company was still manufacturing pertussis vaccine in the US by the end of 1985.[10] Because of this, Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) in 1986, establishing a federal no-fault system to compensate victims of injury caused by mandated vaccines.[11][12]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_I...

Re: McKinsey and Company to pay $650M for role in opioid crisis

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Post by swasheck »

sc68cal wrote: post #17

McKinsey makes something like 10 billion annually in revenue. This is a slap on the wrist. People need to be held accountable for these misdeeds.

yep. would rather it be a multiple of revenues from their role instead of a percentage.

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Post by roenxi »

Retric wrote: post #10
roenxi wrote: post #4

Left hand. COVID proved that we could establish safety & efficacy of a medical treatment in about 12 months, to the point where as I recall a lot of the manufacturers have a legal exemption from any liability for damage done by vaccines. Right hand. There are these opioids have been around for decades and somehow they reached this huge level of damage. Largely the same cultures of people involved. I still think the a…

Opioids were known to be harmful. Purdue attacked the gatekeepers and policy makers not the science. It was mostly a story of what happens when a well funded con artist enters an environment built on trust. Suddenly pain management was viewed as very important by the medical establishment, while mostly paying lip service to all the long term consequences of said actions. After all you can’t actually know how much som…

> Opioids were known to be harmful.

So, hypothetically, if a doctor prescribed me opioids I should be allowed to say I don't want to take them? Even if the manufacturers assure me it is safe, effective and they have lots of evidence of the same. Because to me that seems like a logical conclusion. I think that should be a general policy. People should be able to overrule doctors on the subject of how they are treated.

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Post by kevinventullo »

sitkack wrote: post #3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life They could figure out how to divvy up their 65 life sentences. Why do they get to pay their way out of this? > According to Kavanaugh, former McKinsey senior partner Martin Elling [2] "personally deleted various Purdue related electronic materials from his McKinsey laptop with the intent to obstruct future investigations." Corporate laptops are backed up, with backups offsi…

Just remember, it’s never okay for the people to take matters into their own hands. They just need to get out there and vote! Our elected representatives will ensure that justice is served. If they don’t, that just means you didn’t donate enough to the Good Guys.
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