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Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by codemac »

freedomben wrote: post #24

> You can’t sue your way to AGI. We have great respect for Elon’s accomplishments and gratitude for his early contributions to OpenAI, but he should be competing in the marketplace rather than the courtroom. Isn't that exactly what he's doing with x.ai? Grok and all that? IIRC Elon has the biggest GPU compute cluster in the world right now, and is currently training the next major version of his "competing in the mar…

> biggest GPU compute cluster in the world right now

This is wildly untrue, and most in industry know that. Unfortunately you won't have a source just like I won't, but just wanted to voice that you're way off here.

Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by hipadev23 »

vineyardmike wrote: post #22
ronsor wrote: post #3

I like this practice of publicly airing out dirty laundry.

It’s certainly in response to Elon getting more involved in the government. Recently the CFO basically challenged him to try and use his influence against competition “I trust that Elon would act completely appropriately… and not un-American [by abusing his influence for personal gain]”. The best thing they can do is shine as much light on his behavior in the hope that he backs down to avoid further scrutiny. Now tha…

> Now that Elon is competing, and involved with the government, he’ll be under a lot more scrutiny.

That's the cutest fucking thing I've heard this year. In what world is anyone going to scrutinize Elon Musk? He's the right-hand man of the most powerful person in the world. The time for scrutiny was 8 years ago.

Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by tuyguntn »

> each board member has a deep understanding of technology, at least a basic understanding of AI and strong & sensible morals.

> Put increasing effort into the safety/control problem

... and we are working to get defense contracts which is used to kill human beings in other countries, or fund organizations who kill humans

Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by freedomben »

hangonhn wrote: post #31
freedomben wrote: post #24

> You can’t sue your way to AGI. We have great respect for Elon’s accomplishments and gratitude for his early contributions to OpenAI, but he should be competing in the marketplace rather than the courtroom. Isn't that exactly what he's doing with x.ai? Grok and all that? IIRC Elon has the biggest GPU compute cluster in the world right now, and is currently training the next major version of his "competing in the mar…

> biggest GPU compute cluster in the world right now Really? I'm really surprised by that. I thought Meta was the one who got the jump on everyone by hoarding H100s. Or did you mean strictly GPUs and not any of the AI specific chips?

Good point, I don't know if it's strictly GPUs or also includes some other AI specific chips.

Nvidia wrote about it: https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/spectrum-x-ethernet-netwo...

Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by guerrilla »

colechristensen wrote: post #33
akira2501 wrote: post #10

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One of these days if AGI ever does actually come about, we might very well have to go to war with them. There might be a day where billionaires employ zero humans and themselves merge with the AGI in a way that makes them not quite human any more. The amount of data being collected about everyone and what machine learning can already do with it is frightening. I'm afraid the reaction to AI when it actually becomes a…

Yes, when one group of people, a small minority of the population, controls the ability to produce food and violence, then we have a serious problem.

Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by axus »

freedomben wrote: post #24

> You can’t sue your way to AGI. We have great respect for Elon’s accomplishments and gratitude for his early contributions to OpenAI, but he should be competing in the marketplace rather than the courtroom. Isn't that exactly what he's doing with x.ai? Grok and all that? IIRC Elon has the biggest GPU compute cluster in the world right now, and is currently training the next major version of his "competing in the mar…

Maybe Elon is doing both, competing in the marketplace and in the courtroom. And in advising the president to regulate non-profit AI .

Re: Elon Musk wanted an OpenAI for-profit

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Post by Terr_ »

akira2501 wrote: post #10

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> Neither of you have anything even _approaching_ AGI.

On that note, is there a term for, er... Negative hype? Inverse hype? I'm talking about where folks clutch their pearls and say: "Oh no, our product/industry might be too awesome and doom mankind with its strength and guaranteed growth and profitability!"

These days it's hard to tell what portion is cynical marketing ploy versus falling for their own propaganda.

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