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Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denials on the rise

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Re: Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denials on the rise

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Post by shdksjxbcb »

weberer wrote: post #15
edwinjm wrote: post #8

It's time the US realizes how bad its medical system is.

Everybody knows how bad it is. Everyone wants to change it. But I don't see how it can change as long as both parties are on the payroll https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/recipien...

The American people need to stop seeing the other party as the enemy. As long as that’s in place, the parasites at the top will remain in power.

Unfortunately, it’s easy for them to create conditions to perpetuate and widen the American political schisms. And they’ve convinced both sides the common historical solutions (nationalism, limited democracy, religion) are for low IQ bigots. Things are likely too far gone.

Re: Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denials on the rise

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Post by seneca »

tossandthrow wrote: post #5
andrelaszlo wrote: post #2

"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)

It is funny that the sentiment that nothing excuses a murder is being circulated in the US - a country that still carried out death sentences.

The act of killing a human being is not inherently murder. It specifically communicates an unlawful killing, which the death penalty inherently is not.

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Post by bschmidt11 »

garciasn wrote: post #47

I was just denied a colonoscopy as not medically necessary by UHC, coincidentally three days before their CEO was killed, because they don't want me to have anesthesia to do it; they argue I should be awake. When I called to refute the denial, which was denied, I asked them to find the person, if it was a person, who denied it and shove a tube up their ass without anesthesia and then reassess whether it's medically n…

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Post by lubujackson »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #2

"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)

I guess we aren't going back in time to kill Hitler any more then?

The media pearl-clutching is extremely heavy this time around, painting Luigi as an unhinged lunatic and all the rest. It feels incongruent and purposefully dismissive to equate this to something like the Oklahoma City Bombing.

Re: Feds help health insurers hide their dirty secret: denials on the rise

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Post by tboyd47 »

dgfitz wrote: post #44
tboyd47 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can change once Americans break their addiction to "health care."

Huh? I don't know a single person who ENJOYS going to the doctor, or needing medical treatment. What are you on about?

There are lots of people who get freaked out and go to the hospital for every little thing. We used to have a term for that: "hypochondriac." Now it's become socially acceptable, so you don't hear the term as much.

Everyone knows Americans pay the most for medical treatment, but the life expectancy is not that high. If you know your behavior isn't good for you, but you can't stop yourself, well, that's an addiction.

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Post by foul »

xyzzy4747 wrote: post #25
tossandthrow wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is funny that the sentiment that nothing excuses a murder is being circulated in the US - a country that still carried out death sentences.

It's a little different when a jury of your peers convicts you of a crime which was democratically passed by a legislature, versus a lone gunman who feels he is the judge, jury, and executioner.

It's justified when the committee is large enough and regulated enough?

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Post by kstrauser »

actionfromafar wrote: post #16
PittleyDunkin wrote: post #3

"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder." AND YET

If there wasn't a recent murder of a CEO, that line could be taken as directed towards insurers .

That is, the ones who actually convene the “death panels” some politicians pearl-clutched about.

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Post by paulproteus »

weberer wrote: post #15
edwinjm wrote: post #8

It's time the US realizes how bad its medical system is.

Everybody knows how bad it is. Everyone wants to change it. But I don't see how it can change as long as both parties are on the payroll https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/recipien...

Confusing statement when Republicans are the reason Obamacare shipped without a public option

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Post by analog31 »

mrbungie wrote: post #33
xyzzy4747 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little different when a jury of your peers convicts you of a crime which was democratically passed by a legislature, versus a lone gunman who feels he is the judge, jury, and executioner.

The point here is that "democratically passed legislature" is not at people's service.

An elected legislature is a pipe dream in a country with gerrymandering.

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Post by ElevenLathe »

tboyd47 wrote: post #23
weberer wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody knows how bad it is. Everyone wants to change it. But I don't see how it can change as long as both parties are on the payroll https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/recipien...

It can change once Americans break their addiction to "health care."

Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.
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