It's time the US realizes how bad its medical system is.
Aligning with the other reply, yes, I think it's time US leaders realize how bad the medical system is.
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#22"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
You would need to prove that murdering a health care CEO will save many innocents, first.
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#23It's time the US realizes how bad its medical system is.
Everybody knows how bad it is. Everyone wants to change it. But I don't see how it can change as long as both parties are on the payroll https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/recipien...
It can change once Americans break their addiction to "health care."
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#24"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
Zeitgeist graffiti, anyone? "When they wage war, we wage war."
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#25"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
It is funny that the sentiment that nothing excuses a murder is being circulated in the US - a country that still carried out death sentences.
It's a little different when a jury of your peers convicts you of a crime which was democratically passed by a legislature, versus a lone gunman who feels he is the judge, jury, and executioner.
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#26"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
Well, if a killing is ethically justified, it isn't murder. So yes, they're at least begging the question with that statement for sure.
>Well, if a killing is ethically justified, it isn't murder.
Are you saying this as an opinion, or is this an established thing? I thought murder was an "unlawful killing without justification or valid excuse" (paraphrased from Wikipedia), whether one finds it ethical or not is sort of beside the point. Especially because there is no objectively correct ethics.
But, I'm not a lawyer, this is just my understanding.
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#27"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
Consent has been manufactured that if you kill through indirect means then you’re good to go!
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#28It's time the US realizes how bad its medical system is.
Everybody knows how bad it is. Everyone wants to change it. But I don't see how it can change as long as both parties are on the payroll https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/recipien...
Well, the events you are seeing unfolding is change around the established systems.
Civil disobeyance is nothing new. The fact that is is so little pronounced currently is probably a signal that there has been alignment for quite a while.
Bit when politicians do not take their jobs seriously, change finds other ways.
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#29"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
Also without this murder, we could imagine that the NYPost would have never written this article to alert on the malfeasance of healthcare providers...
Why wouldn't they do their part as a news org, and why did they wait for the murder to publish such an article, if that murder was not "needed" for things to change, then?
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#30"No industry malfeasance could ever excuse murder. Period." Murdering a murderer to save many innocents could be considered ethical by some? (Not saying that's the case here, but nypost made an interesting categorical statement.)
It is funny that the sentiment that nothing excuses a murder is being circulated in the US - a country that still carried out death sentences.
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