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Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by forrestthewoods »

aaomidi wrote: post #58
forrestthewoods wrote: post #53

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Valve is great! I love my SteamDeck. I just think it’s hilarious that the trick to making gaming on Linux possible was to use exes compiled for Windows.

Is it? When there’s a dominant player that’s practically the only way?

No. Linux just sucks and is bad at deploying proprietary software in a reliable manner.

It's not particularly difficult to target a broad combination of Windows, macOS, Android, iOS, Switch, PlayStation, and Xbox. They're all basically the same. Even x64 vs ARM is largely irrelevant.

In a sense SteamOS isn't even Linux. It's one distribution with no user modifications running on one set of hardware. It's closer to a console than to "Linux".

Meanwhile Linux isn't even a thing. It's many many many different things. Once upon a time I shipped a game that supported Linux. It's been awhile but Linux players were roughly 1% of the audience but they represented 50% of bug reports. And no, Linux users were not "good" users who were simply better at reporting bugs.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by stevefan1999 »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #24
StressedDev wrote: post #6

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What put you off?

For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

I use Windows at home (with WSL), Hackintosh and by extension macOS at university, and Linux at my company (bare metal, not WSL) alternatively almost every day with Linux and Windows being the dominant one.

In fact, Windows is my dev workstation, game battle station and media consumption all in one. And with WSL I can easily have the best of many worlds. So that why I'm the most productive on Windows. While it being a jack-of-all-trades may mean it is indeed a master of none, but it doesn't mean it is not capable of being productive. So, I'm very confused why you'd find Windows unproductive at all.

And on the contrary, there is a lot of little bugs and stuffs in bare metal Linux that almost got me infuriated all the time and I tunnel visioned on fixing them...Bluetooth mysteriously doesn't work for one. Hyprland (and by extension Wayland) clipboard doesn't work with Vivaldi and VSCode under flakpak sandbox is another that I hate, plus RustDesk does not support Hyprland too...I use Fedora Silverblue btw, and distrobox let me a little bit off when I'm trying to setup podman when things didn't work as intended.

While macOS...while it just works, well I don't appreciate the eye candy and people often claim to have the most productive on a Mac but to be honest I just don't see the appeal at all...but having every app "containerized" and using Zsh by default is nice tho

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by neilalexander »

bmitc wrote: post #19
neya wrote: post #10

Microsoft's problem has never been their hardware. You can argue their Surface and Surface pro line up is far far a better feat of engineering (stuffing a full blown desktop grade processor into a mobile tablet) than any iPad Pro. However, their achilles heel has always been their software. Though Windows has improved a lot over the years, its shitty data collection and privacy practices and changing around of UI ele…

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> because you can actually use your computer as a computer

This is such a vague and pointless argument that somehow manages to mean absolutely nothing at all. What defines "to use a computer as a computer"?

Do you mean to say that all of the things I do day-to-day on a Mac (like software development, communication, media consumption, life organisation) don't count?

You're never going to find a computer that satisfies absolutely everyone but there are plenty of computers out there that satisfy many people's expectations of what a computer should do or be.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by CoolCold »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #24
StressedDev wrote: post #6

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What put you off?

For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

Interesting, mind giving couple of examples? For myself I cannot say I have problems with focusing by using Windows OS - it's my daily driver over the years.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by freeqaz »

stevefan1999 wrote: post #63
spiderfarmer wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

I use Windows at home (with WSL), Hackintosh and by extension macOS at university, and Linux at my company (bare metal, not WSL) alternatively almost every day with Linux and Windows being the dominant one. In fact, Windows is my dev workstation, game battle station and media consumption all in one. And with WSL I can easily have the best of many worlds. So that why I'm the most productive on Windows. While it being…

Is Hackintosh even usable these days after the transition to ARM? I've been wondering if that will kill it or if the new Windows on ARM machines from Qualcomm will revive the market.

Just feels like too much special magic in Apple's hardware. But who knows?

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by spiderfarmer »

cam_l wrote: post #59
spiderfarmer wrote: post #24

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For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

Easy, I just spend a few minutes every morning disabling all the new notifications, and the forced full page Microsoft ads, resetting all the settings that changed in an overnight update, write a quick powershell script to uninstall the new programs and features I never asked for, and then disable edge and omedrive again and I am ready for the day. Then I do it all again at lunch..

And after all this when you finally get to work continually dismiss every window / popup notification that is somehow allowed to steal the focus from the window you’re working in.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by stevefan1999 »

freeqaz wrote: post #66
stevefan1999 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Windows at home (with WSL), Hackintosh and by extension macOS at university, and Linux at my company (bare metal, not WSL) alternatively almost every day with Linux and Windows being the dominant one. In fact, Windows is my dev workstation, game battle station and media consumption all in one. And with WSL I can easily have the best of many worlds. So that why I'm the most productive on Windows. While it being…

Is Hackintosh even usable these days after the transition to ARM? I've been wondering if that will kill it or if the new Windows on ARM machines from Qualcomm will revive the market. Just feels like too much special magic in Apple's hardware. But who knows?

If you don't want those "AI" features then Hackintosh is still pretty much alive until Sequoia

Hackintosh is basically dead in ARM because they have custom ASIC and DSP chips and accelerators on package that does not present in Intel Macs. And emulating them is super inefficient at the moment.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by spiderfarmer »

vips7L wrote: post #54
sleepybrett wrote: post #27

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do they really, or is windows just what they use to launch excel? I don't know a single software developer that prefers windows anymore.

You can rip Windows from my cold dead hands. It just works.

Most of the time.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by ksec »

neya wrote: post #10

Microsoft's problem has never been their hardware. You can argue their Surface and Surface pro line up is far far a better feat of engineering (stuffing a full blown desktop grade processor into a mobile tablet) than any iPad Pro. However, their achilles heel has always been their software. Though Windows has improved a lot over the years, its shitty data collection and privacy practices and changing around of UI ele…

I am glad many on HN starting to show and appreciate Surface the Hardware. It was perhaps the most important thing in the PC industry where M$ push the envelop on Hardware design and parts where other OEMs get to benefits some of those R&D.

And yet they are let down by their own software which should have been their bread and butter. Considering they no longer rely on Windows as a major source of revenue but more as a market moat. They should have simply asked how do you make Windows the best operating system.

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