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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by dgfitz »

Mistletoe wrote: post #618
dgfitz wrote: post #616

Late to the thread so this will probably get buried. My spouse and I have seen these things flying for __years__ around the northern Baltimore area. They even had patterns. Recently, we have been hearing what sound like Apache helicopters at around the same time at night. This video in this article: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... Is 100% __identical__ to what we have been seeing for l…

I guess I would say why are people concerned about this? I’d be much more concerned about ones without navigation lights.

I didn’t mean to imply I’m concerned, quite the opposite. Like mentioned, this has been happing for half a decade in my world.

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

hersko wrote: post #677
Aeolun wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I’m not saying there’s nothing, but there’s clearly some component of hysteria.

It's not hysteria if UFOs start showing up en-masse and then people start thinking everything in the sky is a UFO. It just means people are more likely to attribute lights in the night sky to this new phenomenon. Of course there will be false positives, but it does not mean the underlying issue exists.

Everything in the sky is a UFO until it's identified.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #855
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #808

Someone make a FOIA request to the FAA for AANC and 'FAA Drone Zone' authorizations for flights in areas experiencing drone sightings. Be very specific with like 'AANC and 'FAA Drone Zone' authorizations for the ABC affected area and in force during XYZ specific timeframe (and break out each night, preferably in separate FOIA requests). My guess is that would shed some light on things. 'ABC' above would need to be th…

Does anyone really believe that FOIA responses actually contain real information on classified operations?

Yeah. The feds follow paperwork. I was once able to get a request filled about a meeting that I knew would cover a topic they denied knowing anything about. Guess what was in the meeting file? Them talking about said topic.

Edit: if this is a normal drone company with a process, they are going to be filing these requests. You don't mess with the FAA. The drones have their lights on, I'm guessing they are also filing their paperwork.

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Post by dgfitz »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #793
dgfitz wrote: post #616

Late to the thread so this will probably get buried. My spouse and I have seen these things flying for __years__ around the northern Baltimore area. They even had patterns. Recently, we have been hearing what sound like Apache helicopters at around the same time at night. This video in this article: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... Is 100% __identical__ to what we have been seeing for l…

As I mentioned in another comment, police departments have been using drones for around 10 years. That's not to mention all the other professional and amateur use. I personally know at least a handful of people who regularly fly theirs. Most major metro areas are going to have drones flying all over the place. So what I'm saying is...why is this interesting?

We would watch 5-7 of them take off and fly the exact same route. They weren’t police drones. They’re training.

Edit: my $dayjob is unmanned vehicles

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Post by dekhn »

lxgr wrote: post #844
dekhn wrote: post #837

Earlier quoted context omitted.

do you have a source for ATACMS using GNSS not GPS?

GNSS is the umbrella term for satellite based positioning/navigation systems, since there’s now multiple in operation.

Ah, got it mixed up with GLONASS.

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Post by [deleted] »

paul7986 wrote: post #416
JohnBooty wrote: post #384

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If we start blasting things out of the sky: - We certainly can't deny that "something" is happening - The US, if not the world, is going to be rocked by (basically) open war in the skies of America - If we fail to down these things, we look like utterly weak fools - Succeed or fail, we reveal our capabilities (or lack thereof) - Legit public safety issue, bullets/shells/missiles/etc that miss these things have to com…

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Post by throwawaycities »

ricardobeat wrote: post #841
throwawaycities wrote: post #768

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No need to picture a cute hypothetical set of facts that are dissimilar to that actual set of facts. These are serious military protocols not a academic exercise in a vacuum. Unauthorized flying of even dji drones near and over military bases is illegal and people get arrested for it. In fact a Chinese citizen was just arrested yesterday for flying a drone over a Space Force base. Based on reports and video evidence…

And what's the purpose of putting jets in the air, that stall around 200km/h, to "intercept" stationary objects?

Protocol

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Post by IAmGraydon »

I seem to have found the original source of the claimed sightings that has lead to this massive case of hysteria. It's a Twitter/X account called @rawsalerts. Here's the post:

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1858717730746126444

There is zero evidence to support any of the claims made in this post, and it seems to have spread virally from here. It appears that rawsalerts posts disinformation and then it is disseminated through a massive network of fake news sites and fake social media accounts. Just do a google search for "rawsalerts" to see what I mean. It looks like much of its content is constantly reposted by NewsBreak, which has been noted as a disinformation/fake news site set up by China.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/top-news-app-us-has-chine...

Starting to get the idea? I believe this was a case of mass hysteria that was literally engineered by one of our enemies.

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Post by stevenhuang »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #775
stevenhuang wrote: post #567

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The lore theory is this: that there is a sort of trickster phenomenon at play whose goal is to subvert our understanding of the physical world, and to get us to start asking metaphysical questions about the nature of reality. Questions that can only be answered by "looking within". This is called the control system hypothesis, coined by renowned ufologist Jacques Vallees: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/rn650p…

>And another event from the 1800s of craft that is era-appropriate, mimicking airships of the time: You do realize that's because those too were cases of mass hysteria, and the delusions matched what they knew to be airborne at the time - airships. Now all you see on the news is drones and suddenly everyone is having drone-flavored mass hysteria. > I've studied the phenomenon from all angles. Give me your most convin…

Here's a report re light orb phenomenon buzzing a FedEx cargo plane.

https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20

News article of event: https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/video-captures-pulsating-ufo-d...

Interview with the pilots: https://youtu.be/HXLFC-hwQ6M?si=TEcOt3yTrSi1_VIh

There are countless such documented sightings throughout history.

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Post by mvcalder »

neom wrote: post #738
mvcalder wrote: post #560

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I read several comments referring to: idiots, morons, delusional, and hysteria.

I didn't think you were a kook, I did wonder why you decided to film it in the first place, more the 6am thing, or more it was unusual thing?

It was an odd sight at that hour of the day. I wanted pictures as something to talk about with friends. I really wish I had been astute enough to take video.
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