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Re: Pay Too Much for everything

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post #31

The idea in this article is sometimes true, but it completely fails to take into account the relentless march of technology. Some items, such as cell-phones or laptops, will be totally obsolete within 10 years no matter how finely made they are. Other items, such as guitars, will not be obsolete since the technology isn't changing quickly, if at all. There will be new digital guitars with funky synth modes every year…

Why do people say Apple Computers aren't able to be modified? Go on Amazon/Ebay. Find the screwdrivers. It's a computer not Fort Knox.

This was true for everything up until the latest batch of MacBook Pros.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228070/Retina_MacBoo...

I'll continue to use my five year old BlackBook. I just wish it could take more than 4GB of ram.

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

#163
post #74

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As a personal anecdote: when I eventually stopped growing taller (~19), I started purchasing clothing and outdoor gear that was a step up from the quality of when I knew that I'd grow out of things. While not universal, I did notice a definite uptick in the durability and comfort of most things. It's obviously possible that this was a placebo effect or maybe I'm nicer to my gear now, but I've certainly been getting m…

The placebo effect appears to be massive, at least where it's been studied (wine, for example). I'm happy to admit that, as a general rule ( cough jaguar cough ), higher prices indicate better quality, I just don't think it translates into better value (again, as a general rule). Sure, highly functional things, like shoes and a bed, probably warrant paying more even though the value isn't proportional. Paying 50% mor…

A trip to Spain is 50 hours or so of my life. Driving a cheap car easily exceeds 400 hours a year, for around ten years. I'd rather have a comfortable, well made car to drive in than a once in a life time trip. YMMV.

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a personal anecdote: when I eventually stopped growing taller (~19), I started purchasing clothing and outdoor gear that was a step up from the quality of when I knew that I'd grow out of things. While not universal, I did notice a definite uptick in the durability and comfort of most things. It's obviously possible that this was a placebo effect or maybe I'm nicer to my gear now, but I've certainly been getting m…

The placebo effect appears to be massive, at least where it's been studied (wine, for example). I'm happy to admit that, as a general rule ( cough jaguar cough ), higher prices indicate better quality, I just don't think it translates into better value (again, as a general rule). Sure, highly functional things, like shoes and a bed, probably warrant paying more even though the value isn't proportional. Paying 50% mor…

I buy experiences by buying tools.

Owning $800 of camera equipment doesn't make me happy, but using it does. Looking at my Macbook Air doesn't make me happy, but writing code on it does.

A Jaguar doesn't get you to work any better, but as has been pointed out, driving even a BMW 330 is a hell of a lot of fun every day.

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

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post #101
post #55

The problem is that the modern consumer cannot associate cost with quality. I usually buy the cheapest appliance I can find (microwave, coffee machine, lawn mower) because it has the fewest bells and whistles and is likely the only one I can fix myself.

If I don't have the time to really look into things, I go with the cheapest too. - You usually have exactly the quality you paid for, so no surprises here. - It's often more ecological. If factory A can produce more stuff with same money than factory B, they must be doing something right. Another way to look at this would be: if you have to make shovels dirt cheap, you can't use barrels of oil/shovel, because you wou…

Where I live, ground chuck goes for $4/lb, and chicken breasts go for $7/lb. Not sure what the cost per pound of an entire steer versus an entire chicken, but I don't see the same price variance that you're writing about.

Also, the ecological impact might be because Crappy Factory A is manufacturing cheap shovels and dumping their toxic waste in a local river, while Factory B has to charge more because it's following industry standards and using a reputable waste handler.

Or Crappy Factory A might be using underage employees, or dumping product to eliminate its competition.

Drawing conclusions about manufacturers based on pricing is dangerous.

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

#167
post #139

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As an anecdote to add to your great analysis, I know a lot of my engineering coworkers (including me) who refuse to buy new cars. I drive a 15 year old truck not because it's fuel-efficient, not because it's beautiful, not because it has all the features, and certainly not because it needs no maintenance. It's because when it does need maintenance, I can do it and it's relatively cheap and easy. It's the Timex vs poc…

My experience with cars is the opposite which is why I only lease now. You get a brand new, terrific car every three years.

With a brand new payment due every month. I've not had a car payment in about 8 years .

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

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You answered your own question: given a choice, if you can buy from the supplier that sells to industrial/commercial users, the quality will usually be better. e.g., I buy my T-Shirts from Tractor Supply. They are cheaper, much thicker and last longer than the ones I bought from American Apparel. Farmers are harder on clothing than the average urban dweller, I'm guessing. The tools I buy from McMaster-Carr or Fastena…

The lightweight fabric at American Apparel is a premium feature.

To whom? I can poke a hole in it by just looking at it the wrong way. I'm buying a T-Shirt, not a pair of pantyhose.

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

#169
post #31

The idea in this article is sometimes true, but it completely fails to take into account the relentless march of technology. Some items, such as cell-phones or laptops, will be totally obsolete within 10 years no matter how finely made they are. Other items, such as guitars, will not be obsolete since the technology isn't changing quickly, if at all. There will be new digital guitars with funky synth modes every year…

> You can't remove the battery and take them apart to clean them (proprietary screws)

Huh. I've never really looked at a MacBook Air that closely, but why does it need proprietary screws?

Re: Pay Too Much for everything

#170
post #166
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I don't have the time to really look into things, I go with the cheapest too. - You usually have exactly the quality you paid for, so no surprises here. - It's often more ecological. If factory A can produce more stuff with same money than factory B, they must be doing something right. Another way to look at this would be: if you have to make shovels dirt cheap, you can't use barrels of oil/shovel, because you wou…

Where I live, ground chuck goes for $4/lb, and chicken breasts go for $7/lb. Not sure what the cost per pound of an entire steer versus an entire chicken, but I don't see the same price variance that you're writing about. Also, the ecological impact might be because Crappy Factory A is manufacturing cheap shovels and dumping their toxic waste in a local river, while Factory B has to charge more because it's following…

"Drawing conclusions about manufacturers based on pricing is dangerous." I completely agree. But in my opinion, drawing conclusions about manufacturers based on reputation is as dangerous. And it takes time to get that reputation info. Time I don't have many times.

Only reliable way to have good conclusions about manufacturers is to examine their business throughly. That's obviously just impossible in most cases.

PS. Chicken breast is expensive here too. I buy whole legs.

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