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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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post #549

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Shoot one down and see who comes knocking?

Fourth Amendment in action !

This could be scoped very tightly to reasonableness with an emergency warrant, plenty of probable cause.

Can you elucidate what you meant?

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post #582

Quick summary after following this for a few days: FBI says they're rotary and fixed-wing drones, White House says they aren't foreign adversaries, Pentagon says they aren't USA military, all 3 insist that there's no indication of a real threat despite the drones being bigger and higher tech than retail drones. Politicians are PO'd that something about this doesn't add up: How can anyone know these aren't a threat wi…

"How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are?" Easy. They didn't say they don't know whose they are. They could belong to a private contractor who is paid by the military but the military doesn't own the drones nor company (plausible deniability /outsourcing.) Or they could be a friendly country (e.g. UK) red-teaming the US with our consent. I've never heard anyone apply the Five Eyes hor…

yea this is the sad shitty answer - it's just a private company w/ a government contract gathering data on us

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People like this talk a big game but the warrant will be written and they will comply. Always the online warriors that act tough but always fold.

All this talk about "2nd amendment is about deposing tyranny" and yet they weren't the ones protesting the wars in the middle east and the Patriot act, two recent and objectively tyrannical acts.

In fact, we know that the gun nuts in the US were broadly on the side of SUPPORTING those two things.

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post #549

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> How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are They are - obviously - lying. This screams secrecy to me. All 3 know that these drones are not a threat. They aren't US military because they are a 3 letter agency program. They know there's nothing to worry about it, but they won't tell you any more details. Which has been the modus operandi for secret services for decades, so I'm surprised i…

Shoot one down and see who comes knocking?

If history is any indication it will be local police responding to shots fired. Many municipalities in NJ do not allow the discharge of a firearm within town limits. Morris Township has such a law in their code as well.

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Late to the thread so this will probably get buried.

My spouse and I have seen these things flying for __years__ around the northern Baltimore area. They even had patterns.

Recently, we have been hearing what sound like Apache helicopters at around the same time at night.

This video in this article: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b...

Is 100% __identical__ to what we have been seeing for literal years, at least 5.

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

Lol that one even has a telltale incandescent landing light! It's a weird quirk of the conservative nature of Airlines and the FAA but most planes still rely on a gigantic incandescent light bulb for their landing lights, which is quite distinct nowadays.

Speaking of which, if it has landing lights or recognition lights or the red/green navigation lights, you can bet it is not a UFO, and probably not a foreign adversary.

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post #616

Late to the thread so this will probably get buried. My spouse and I have seen these things flying for __years__ around the northern Baltimore area. They even had patterns. Recently, we have been hearing what sound like Apache helicopters at around the same time at night. This video in this article: https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... Is 100% __identical__ to what we have been seeing for l…

I guess I would say why are people concerned about this? I’d be much more concerned about ones without navigation lights.

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post #432

I guarantee it's some local police agency that got them donated by the military.

Pretty terrible guarantee to make since the Pentagon already said it wasn't their drones.

If they were given to local police by the Pentagon then the Pentagon would be correct to say they aren’t theirs.

Someone needs to ask the Pentagon if they used to be theirs.

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post #192

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Most of the Toyota acceleration accidents were almost certainly the result of operator error. The fact that the staistical probablity increased with age gives that away. However, Toyota got convicted because their software development process was so terrible that they were effectively criminally negligent and deserved to get absolutely roasted for it.

Did they use tons of global variables?

Probably didn’t use misra
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