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Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by The_Colonel »

egeozcan wrote: post #158
StableAlkyne wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Remains to be seen how well they will be able to productize and market The challenge is trust. Google is one of the leaders in AI and are home to incredibly talented developers. But they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products. It's hard to justify committing developers and money to a product when there's a good chance you'll just have to pivot again once they get bored. Say what you w…

> they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow . I'm not saying this to defend Google, I'm still (perhaps unreasonably) angry because of Reader, it's just that there is a pattern and AI isn't likely to fit that for a long while.

> Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow.

That's irrelevant to me as a user if I've already invested my time into the product.

To an extent all companies do it. Google just does it much more, to a degree that I tend to ignore most Google's launches because of this uncertainty.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by wraptile »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #237
CSMastermind wrote: post #173

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That's almost word for word what people said about Windows Phone when I was at Microsoft.

But Windows Phone was actually good, like Xune, it was just late, and it was incredibly popular to hate Microsoft at the time. Additionally, Microsoft didn't really have any advantage in the smart phone space. Google is already a product the majority of people on the planet use regularly to answer questions. That seems like a competitive advantage to me.

> But Windows Phone was actually good

I think people just have rose-tinted glasses on. Sure the hardware from Nokia was great, but software was very poor even by the standards of that time.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by modeless »

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free.

I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcuts and can give you advice based on what it sees you doing on your screen. It also watched me play Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, and it successfully identified some of the characters and told me some information about them.

You can enable "Grounding" in the sidebar to let it use Google Search even in voice mode. The video streaming and integrated search make it far more useful than ChatGPT Advanced Voice mode is currently.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by freedomben »

Jabbles wrote: post #290
weatherlite wrote: post #147

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GCP grew 35% last quarter , just saying ...

"just saying" things that are false. Google Cloud grew 35% year over year, when comparing the 3 months ending September 30th 2024 with 2023. https://abc.xyz/assets/94/93/52071fba4229a93331939f9bc31c/go... page 12

Great point, although 35% yoy is still impressive, and numbers they are surely pleased with

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by thibaut_barrere »

kanzenryu2 wrote: post #377
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #199

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I’m sad for reader but it was a somewhat niche product. Inbox I can’t forgive. It was insanely good and was killed because it was a threat to Gmail. My main issue with Google is that internal politic affects users all the time. See the debacle of anything built on top of Android and being treated as a second citizen. You can’t trust a company which can’t shield users from its internal politics. It means nothing is al…

Google reader was killed because there was only one guy who knew how to support it

If anything, this adds meat to the fact it can be understandable that people do not trust Google with products longevity.

Bus factor et al. is literally CS 101.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by creesch »

troupo wrote: post #379
kanzenryu2 wrote: post #377

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Google reader was killed because there was only one guy who knew how to support it

And that is a problem for a company with 20k employees? No, Reader was killed because it: - was free - didn't contribute to revenue growth from ads

> And that is a problem for a company with 20k employees?

It is for a company where the promotion culture rewards new initiatives and products and doesn't reward people maintaining products. Which was most certainly the company culture around the time reader was killed.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by Brotkrumen »

modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

Sounds interesting, but voice input isn't working for me there. I guess I'm too niche with my Mac and Firefox setup.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by Brotkrumen »

AH4oFVbPT4f8 wrote: post #355
bloomingkales wrote: post #116

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They have to not get blind sided by Sora, while at the same time fighting the cloud war against MS/Amazon. Weirdly Google is THE AI play. If AI is not set to change everything and truly is a hype cycle, then Google stock withstands and grows. If AI is the real deal, then Google still withstands due to how much bigger the pie will get.

Why is Google THE AI play as you put it? I don't agree or disagree, just wanting to understand your perspective.

That conversation reads like two consultant LLMs talking past each other.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by mentalgear »

Brotkrumen wrote: post #387
modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

Sounds interesting, but voice input isn't working for me there. I guess I'm too niche with my Mac and Firefox setup.

Actually plenty of tech people are using mac & firefox

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Post by selvan »

modeless wrote: post #383

https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

Get started documentation on Multimodal Live API : https://ai.google.dev/api/multimodal-live
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