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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by 01100011 »

gooseus wrote: post #134
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I have had a bet going with two of my friends on this exact point for almost a week now, and the fact that it is _still_ not been resolved by any agency is insane. I also have a couple friends who work at Picatinny as well, and have heard that their civilian security have spotted some (which is strange since their airspace is always restricted), but there haven't been any internal memos regarding them. Some things I'…

> the fact that it is _still_ not been resolved by any agency is insane

I don't think it's insane. We won't get serious about tracking UAVs/drones/RC aircraft until there is an incident. Until then, agencies likely do not have the money, resources, time or motivation to do it.

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Post by 01100011 »

kardos wrote: post #307
jaco6 wrote: post #297

The concerns about it being a foreign power seem misplaced. Shouldn’t the main concern with drones be domestic terrorism? A civilian could easily buy a small fleet of drones, equip them with small IEDs or sarin gas, and fly them into otherwise secured areas with large crowds. Are there any procedures in place to prevent this?

> A civilian could easily buy a small fleet of drones, equip them with small IEDs or sarin gas, and fly them into otherwise secured areas with large crowds. Easy? Is sarin gas freely available at big-box retailers?

Don't underestimate hackers. The internet is supercharging hobbyist hackers in many domains, including electronics, chemistry and bioengineering.

I doubt the precursors to nerve gases(the worst ones, anyway) are readily available, but they are probably a handful of undergrad-level reactions away from easily available chemicals.

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Post by 01100011 »

irobeth wrote: post #281

i'm reminded of a story from around 2012? about an aerial surveillance program where they recorded a bird's-eye view of the city [1?] they used the footage to solve some cartel murder by playing the footage in reverse to track the origin of the killers 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Lowrider

Funny, I just posted this story a couple of days ago. I think it was from 2014. There was a lot of noise about this sort of tech and then it just went quiet. I really doubt this tech is going unused. I suspect something like this was used to track down the CEO killer recently(with a parallel constructed cover story).

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Post by fer »

topspin wrote: post #472
senkora wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Video of that model of drone: https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringPorn/comments/13juxdi/pt...

Something actually patent-worthy.

How? it's just a UAV, quad version of a V-22 Osprey. Maybe I'm missing something peculiar about it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey

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Post by iepathos »

motorest wrote: post #466
gradus_ad wrote: post #49

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I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

> I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. You better crank out your camera and collect any proof at all,because what you are describing bears no resemblance to the sightings mentioned in the article. There is a reason why sighting…

For real, with everyone having a smartphone with high quality cameras on them there really is zero excuse for there to not be highly detailed accurate videos of this if they are legit especially with people describing them as "low and slow".

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Post by keepamovin »

comp_throw7 wrote: post #457
keepamovin wrote: post #403

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Well that's not exactly what they said. Here's the transcript: "at this time we have no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign entity or the work of an adversary...these are not US military drones" What do you make of that?

I didn't say they said that. You asked what the other poster interpreted you as saying.

Right but how would you know how the other person interpreted it? What you said is not what I said. What I said is just a paraphrase of the Pentagon statement. How is it very different hahaha? :)

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Post by throwaway48476 »

fer wrote: post #485
topspin wrote: post #472

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something actually patent-worthy.

How? it's just a UAV, quad version of a V-22 Osprey. Maybe I'm missing something peculiar about it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey

The hinge mechanism and the control dynamics.

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Post by throwaway48476 »

mjfl wrote: post #473
coliveira wrote: post #322

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Then Senators should stop blaming Iran for them. It’s irresponsible

They get money from the 'war with Iran' lobby. From their perspective such statements are rational.
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