I find it overall very unnerving how quiet this is and how the Canadian press never really finds issues with this. I often saw Japanese media moving lock-step with the police (in terms of vocabulary to use for certain crimes, how to report certain issues), and thought it was creepy as hell. However, the complete lack of questioning of the purpose behind a sudden legalization of euthanasia (in a country with public he…
Assisted dying now accounts for one in 20 Canada deaths
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#12I find it overall very unnerving how quiet this is and how the Canadian press never really finds issues with this. I often saw Japanese media moving lock-step with the police (in terms of vocabulary to use for certain crimes, how to report certain issues), and thought it was creepy as hell. However, the complete lack of questioning of the purpose behind a sudden legalization of euthanasia (in a country with public he…
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#13Worrying parallel: will euthanasia become another "solution" for those who can't afford proper care and treatment? Moving homeless people to warmer cities and offering euthanasia to those who can't afford treatment both avoid fixing the underlying problems.
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#14I find it overall very unnerving how quiet this is and how the Canadian press never really finds issues with this. I often saw Japanese media moving lock-step with the police (in terms of vocabulary to use for certain crimes, how to report certain issues), and thought it was creepy as hell. However, the complete lack of questioning of the purpose behind a sudden legalization of euthanasia (in a country with public he…
Your whole comment frames MAID as something the gov't does to patients, not something patients choose as a better option than spending 6-12 months in agony with only one possible outcome. MAID isn't a cost cutting measure. The cost of palliative care for the terminally ill is trivial. It's not a loud issue in Canada because we've had decades of grappling with this (there's nothing sudden about it: google "Robert Lati…
It is something the government (or people working for it) have tried to push onto patients: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-maid-rcmp-investig... .
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MAID is always a choice by a patient, not an option chosen by the health care system. And according to reports, in 96% of cases it's a really obvious choice: I'm going to die within a year anyway, in great, degenerative agony. I'd rather go of my own choosing while I still can choose, in a relatively painless way.
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Privatized "insurance": Here is a list of ten specialists for your newly emerging condition who may or may not still be practicing. When you call each one on the telephone, make sure to double check that they actually take our "plan" regardless of them being on the list we gave you. If you do manage to find one taking new patients, their next appointment will be 6 months out after the two weeks it takes for us to write you a "referral". Or we can call someone who can stop your pain and they will be there tomorrow at 8AM sharp.
Self pay: You can give up your home equity to spend the next several months laying around in agony, or you can pass that money to your (grand)children to make their lives better.
[0] read: just as governing, but with drastically decreased accountability
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#17Fifteen years ago, flying into Vancouver, a local told me charities would give homeless people one-way bus tickets there from colder regions of Canada to prevent winter deaths. No return tickets in spring. Calls into question what we consider "charitable" when the solution is just moving vulnerable people elsewhere. Worrying parallel: will euthanasia become another "solution" for those who can't afford proper care an…
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your whole comment frames MAID as something the gov't does to patients, not something patients choose as a better option than spending 6-12 months in agony with only one possible outcome. MAID isn't a cost cutting measure. The cost of palliative care for the terminally ill is trivial. It's not a loud issue in Canada because we've had decades of grappling with this (there's nothing sudden about it: google "Robert Lati…
>Your whole comment frames MAID as something the gov't does to patients, not something patients choose as a better option than spending 6-12 months in agony with only one possible outcome. It is something the government (or people working for it) have tried to push onto patients: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-maid-rcmp-investig... .
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your whole comment frames MAID as something the gov't does to patients, not something patients choose as a better option than spending 6-12 months in agony with only one possible outcome. MAID isn't a cost cutting measure. The cost of palliative care for the terminally ill is trivial. It's not a loud issue in Canada because we've had decades of grappling with this (there's nothing sudden about it: google "Robert Lati…
>Your whole comment frames MAID as something the gov't does to patients, not something patients choose as a better option than spending 6-12 months in agony with only one possible outcome. It is something the government (or people working for it) have tried to push onto patients: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/veterans-maid-rcmp-investig... .
One person. Not the gov't, not many gov't employees. One person who presented the option overzealously or inappropriately, leading to four people feeling pressured, out of, IIRC, 45,000 people annually choosing MAID.
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The major cost drivers of Canada's single payer health care system are big-ticket tests and interventions: MRIs, surgery, etc. Palliative care is comparatively cheap, especially since it's often done at home with a visiting nurse coming by to inject morphine. There's no significant savings to be found by killing the terminally ill more quickly. MAID is always a choice by a patient, not an option chosen by the health…