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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by apcragg »

nimbius wrote: post #31
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

this would be relatively easy to solve with historical ADS-B data correlated to the time and date of the spottings. https://adsb.lol/

AAL578 flew by Tom's River (Bay Shore area, where the photos were taken) around 20:43 on December 8th which is right when the photos were taking, on a heading that would result in an observing on the ground looking at the port side of the aircraft, just as seen in the picture.

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Post by postalrat »

_djo_ wrote: post #17
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.

Is that your gut feeling or do you know something the government isn't willing to reveal?

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Post by labster »

_djo_ wrote: post #17
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.

The AA livery just means it’s a false flag attack. Truly, we haven’t seen such an invasion in Grover’s Mill, New Jersey since 1938.

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Post by colechristensen »

mkmk wrote: post #10

A practical question, beyond the questions of whose drones these are: what are they looking for?

The most plausible explanation is that people who know nothing are in hysterics over legally operated and licensed aircraft.

ATC has radar, military bases have radar. If there were threats, they would see them and do something about them. Folks are reporting to their state senators? and some whacky congressmen have said some absurd things, but no one who is actually responsible cares and folks are trying to spin it like they're clueless.

This is the equivalent of calling the FBI because you're a pepperpot and you saw someone you didn't recognize walking down the street.

Drones near sensitive power infrastrucure... like those transmission sites will all the equipment are all over the place. And police stations? Give me a break.

There's probably some unlicensed or amateur operators doing slightly inappropriate things, but silly people are trying to frame it like some kind of attack.

Also some of them are certainly just ordinary airplanes.

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Post by antonvs »

jklinger410 wrote: post #39
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

There is more evidence here than just pictures from this one article. The pentagon, for example, just declared that they do not know what they are[1]. Among many other credible sources. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hc1l58/pentagon_no_e...

> There is more evidence here than just pictures from this one article.

What “more evidence”?

All the Pentagon is saying is that there’s no evidence that’s a foreign entity is behind it. Not “more” evidence.

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Post by antonvs »

postalrat wrote: post #43
_djo_ wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.

Is that your gut feeling or do you know something the government isn't willing to reveal?

It’s essentially a null hypothesis. There doesn’t seem to be any actual evidence of anything. It’s all based on social media posts. It shows all the signs of being a mass panic.

The OP article put it like this:

> It is not known whether a group or individual might be behind the phenomenon, or whether any credible issue even exists – there has been speculation that the flurry of activity might merely amount to confusion over sightings of regular planes or be the product of social media distortions.

If you think there’s some real issue here, can you explain why you think that?

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Post by gradus_ad »

apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft.

I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

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Post by antonvs »

bell-cot wrote: post #21
ents wrote: post #3

Why are they not being shot down at the very least?

"Shot down" with what? Surface-to-air missiles? Duck hunters with shotguns? Attack helicopters with miniguns? Whatever you spray into the sky (to knock a drone out of it) will also fall back to earth, plausibly generating civilian casualties on the ground. (And if you use lasers - high power laser beams have plenty of safety issues, too.)

> Duck hunters with shotguns?

Duck Dynasty season 12 is going to be a doozy

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