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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

this would be relatively easy to solve with historical ADS-B data correlated to the time and date of the spottings.

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Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Why are they not being shot down at the very least?

"Shot down" with what? Surface-to-air missiles? Duck hunters with shotguns? Attack helicopters with miniguns? Whatever you spray into the sky (to knock a drone out of it) will also fall back to earth, plausibly generating civilian casualties on the ground. (And if you use lasers - high power laser beams have plenty of safety issues, too.)

If Ukraine is any indication you shoot them down with other drones.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#34
post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

Yeah that's very clearly a helicopter in most of the photos, and the rest could easily be an airliner. At most it might be some knucklehead with an old RC helicopter in violation of FAA regs (flying at night, no remote ID).

If you were some foreign adversary why would you put navigation lights on your secret reconnaissance drone?

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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post #17
post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.

Lol, also rep. Jeff Van Drew claiming without evidence that the drones are coming from an Iranian mothership off the coast.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which picture has the AA livery visible?

6 and 7. If you squint and lean on a bit of confirmation bias, photo 9 looks like a commercial airliner with the Alaska Airlines livery.

Ah. Knowing what AA tails look like makes it look likely that the blurry triangle has blue and red in the right places.

Without context, it does appear to be a quadcopter-ish shape, but since the caption says the object was at high altitude, it fits a regular airplane well.

People live on site watching the object move should certainly know better. (Perhaps they do know, and are intentionally trolling.)

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Shot down" with what? Surface-to-air missiles? Duck hunters with shotguns? Attack helicopters with miniguns? Whatever you spray into the sky (to knock a drone out of it) will also fall back to earth, plausibly generating civilian casualties on the ground. (And if you use lasers - high power laser beams have plenty of safety issues, too.)

If Ukraine is any indication you shoot them down with other drones.

No one in Ukraine is in the habit of shooting down commercial airliners and helicopters, though.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#38
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.

Lol, also rep. Jeff Van Drew claiming without evidence that the drones are coming from an Iranian mothership off the coast.

In his defense, he is a Cold War relic.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#39
post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

There is more evidence here than just pictures from this one article.

The pentagon, for example, just declared that they do not know what they are[1]. Among many other credible sources.

[1]https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hc1l58/pentagon_no_e...

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Shot down" with what? Surface-to-air missiles? Duck hunters with shotguns? Attack helicopters with miniguns? Whatever you spray into the sky (to knock a drone out of it) will also fall back to earth, plausibly generating civilian casualties on the ground. (And if you use lasers - high power laser beams have plenty of safety issues, too.)

If Ukraine is any indication you shoot them down with other drones.

Ukraine's capabilities in that domain are plausibly far more advanced that America's.

Also - costs, casualties, & collateral damage may be far more acceptable in an active war zone, and against drones which are busy killing people & destroying valuables whenever they are not shot down.

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