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Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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This was extensively covered in multiple court cases which are public record. Why don’t you familiarize yourself with them and come back go this thread once you have a better understanding of what it’s about?

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That is your job: you’re questioning the court cases which have very well documented public records, you need to say which specific case was wrong and explain why you disagree.

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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I really don't understand how a judgement this large can be reasonable in a case where nobody has had his house burned down. A billion dollars is ten billion crowns, that's 10 000 million crowns, or around 5 000 apartments. I don't understand how 5 000 apartments can be a judgement handed out to an individual over something he says. It doesn't really matter what he says, when it's this kind of huge amounts. One can't…

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Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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Jones seems like a nut, but the way he's being taken to the cleaners and sued for comical amounts of money are just absurd. I'm not being hyperbolic saying people would be less mad at him if he had done the shooting himself. And it's especially rich in a time where the most popular podcast genre is women commenting on brutal murder cases as they're fresh and being investigated, and throwing out their pet theories abo…

Nancy Grace comes to mind, who has far more reach being on national television. She made claims about people who were later found to be guilty. Her speculation pushed harassment.

Alex Jones has far more listeners than Nancy Grace has ever had. He was pulling down 8 figures selling fake boner pills and tin foil hats on his merch website.

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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Put simply, the internet is wrong. FUAC's offer was all cash. The Onion offered less cash, but offered other incentives (AIUI, a share of whatever revenue they make from Infowars in the future). Saying that The Onion's bid was lower requires you to put a dollar value on those other incentives. The fact that the two creditors (read: victims' families) that would benefit from those incentives were willing to sacrifice…

> a share of whatever revenue they make from Infowars in the future What is that realistically? They said they will turn it into gun safety information. How does a gun safety information site make money out of an audience of people expecting a guy shouting about conspiracy theories?

What that is realistically is irrelevant to the value to the bankruptcy estate - the value to the estate is the amount of debt those creditors are willing to forgive in return for those risks.

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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There are countless documents showing his contempt of court, failure to produce discovery, etc.

Actually, the default judgement doesn't go into any specifics about what he failed to produce in discovery. The Jones lawyers argued that the discovery requests were for documents that don't exist, and that's why they were not produced.

> The Jones lawyers argued that the discovery requests were for documents that don't exist, and that's why they were not produced.

And then they accidentally sent all of the non-existent documents to the plaintiffs, showing Jones had committed perjury. And then they forgot to claim it as privileged in a timely fashion. And then Jones got confronted with the lie in court. And then they got sanctioned for the fuckup. Oops.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-jones-lawyers-acci...

https://apnews.com/article/legal-proceedings-fraud-crime-con...

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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Jones seems like a nut, but the way he's being taken to the cleaners and sued for comical amounts of money are just absurd. I'm not being hyperbolic saying people would be less mad at him if he had done the shooting himself. And it's especially rich in a time where the most popular podcast genre is women commenting on brutal murder cases as they're fresh and being investigated, and throwing out their pet theories abo…

> And it's especially rich in a time where the most popular podcast genre is women commenting on brutal murder cases as they're fresh and being investigated, and throwing out their pet theories about real living people being responsible. What's the difference?

Can you cite any data on that at all? I’m aware of the genre of podcast you’re referring to but I’ve never been aware of it even remotely being the most popular genre.

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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When has it been otherwise? See also: Hunter Biden.

It's never 0 or 100. But it does ebb and flow, and boy is it about to flow. Comparing one guy who was in the hot seat only because of his surname to the incoming shit storm is risible.

Can you point us to videos of other people doing lots of federal drug & gun crimes who get away with it?

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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He's been ignoring the courts. I don't know what you want them to do? I guess they could put him in prison, but I'm guessing that would be considered harsh too. Again, for the 2nd time, its not what he's done, it's that he's ignoring everyone telling him to stop, including the government. I don't know what you expect the punishment for that to be. If it were you or I we would have had our asses dragged into prison a…

Call me crazy, but I don't think the government should be able to "tell you to stop talking" about something just because it makes some people upset.

You’re welcome to try to get the laws against defamation repealed but until then there is a specific legal standard which was met in this case. If you think that’s unfair, perhaps start by asking yourself whether his lawyers made the same argument and why it failed.

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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Will the losing bidders drop out, or not? In a sealed bid you have to guess what others will bid - you want to bid $1 more than your competitors (or if you will lose the bid make your competitor pay as much as possible). The judge is saying because the bids were seals losing bidders had no clue what their correct bid is and some are likely to have bid less than they would have in open bidding. Who is right I don't kn…

In a single round sealed bid auction, it’s equally likely that a winner will have bid more than they would have in open bidding since they only get one shot to name a price.

Maybe. Some will do this. Some will try for a deal in hopes that nobody else is bidding.

Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion

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> Which obviously doesn't make sense in a bankruptcy, since the whole point is the creditors are not going to get paid back 100% The creditors already own the asset. The estate is selling, not Alex Jones. If you asked every creditor which bid they preferred, which do you think they'd choose? The creditors forgoing their claims obviously prefer one. As for the rest, they'll choose the one that pays them more: The Onio…

> The creditors already own the asset. The parent comment, quoted above is misinformation.

> The parent comment, quoted above is misinformation

What?

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