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UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by creole_wither »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #173
saagarjha wrote: post #128

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I don't have enough experience about India to comment on that but in the US the amount of money it takes to influence a politician is quite low.

How much do you estimate it would take to get a politician to flip their view on abortion, gun control, illegal immigration, health care? Seems like if it were "quite low" you'd see politicians flipping views all the time as one side or the other channelled money to them. What we actually see is a lot of stasis, refusal to compromise, and politicians locked in with their party, which suggests it is pretty hard to inf…

It'll be much harder to get a politician to flip on an issue that voters care about but much easier to get them to vote one way on an obscure regulation that most voters have never heard of.

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Post by MiguelX413 »

alex_lav wrote: post #304
jraph wrote: post #225

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Not at the cost of harming people, usually. Its role is also to protect individuals themselves. Infinite individual freedom doesn't exist, it stops where others' individual freedom starts.

> Not at the cost of harming people, What defines harm? Or more specifically, who?

I agree.

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Post by userbinator »

hermitcrab wrote: post #121
userbinator wrote: post #56

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It's what you'd expect of a country that's rapidly diving into Orwellian dystopia.

Do you actually live in the UK or is this based on Musk tweets?

I don't pay attention to Musk's tweets but I'm not surprised that he has made the same observation as me and many others.

...and of course many in the UK are too scared to speak out.

Edit: apparently there are bots watching this and ready to bury the truth! How easy it is to expose them...

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by userbinator »

Woeps wrote: post #236
userbinator wrote: post #56

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It's what you'd expect of a country that's rapidly diving into Orwellian dystopia.

Uhm... the country we're talking about is the UK. Not some US state...

The US is heading down the same path but the UK (and much of the EU) is further along.

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Post by manojlds »

thom wrote: post #24
manojlds wrote: post #23

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It's interesting that one of the tax free investment/savings choices in the UK is basically a lottery.

You’re not risking any capital though, if you mean Premium Bonds.

You are losing your savings interest. You are gambling that money away.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by thom »

manojlds wrote: post #345
thom wrote: post #24

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You’re not risking any capital though, if you mean Premium Bonds.

You are losing your savings interest. You are gambling that money away.

I've always earned roughly the same from Premium Bonds as the equivalent savings, and it's tax free. Doesn't seem a terrible deal as long as you're filling your ISA up each year. Plus you have a frisson of excitement every month.

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Post by whycome »

akira2501 wrote: post #217
whycome wrote: post #165

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Moved goalpoast? > No, the issue is that fruit flavors and cartoon characters are abused to appeal to children. That is what the original comment said That's not what they said. They said: > It's deeply irresponsible how we allow advertisements and Big Sugar/Fast Food companies to exploit colorful cartoon characters and misleading health claims to hook people I don't think the cartoon characters is the part of the pr…

The purpose of the commercial is to create demand where there otherwise would not have been. Do you think that demand comes from the parents or the children? Which parts of the commercial do you think are most important for fomenting this demand?

Does the commercial exist if they're allowed to make those misleading claims?

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by Nullabillity »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #339
Nullabillity wrote: post #198

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Why not?

What is about HN where numerous posters do not believe that investing in the US or EU stock markets is better than completely random outcome, like roulette red/black? Man, this place is weird sometimes. What the fuck are you investing in for retirement if not stocks? Sea shells!!?? I hereby quote Brandolini's law: > The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to pro…

> What is about HN where numerous posters do not believe that investing in the US or EU stock markets is better than completely random outcome, like roulette red/black?

Err, you could start by not making wild inferences and replying to assertions that weren't made.

A single investment is basically gambling. Where it moves is largely impossible to predict or (for a nobody like me, who wouldn't have the means to engage in market manipulation) control. You can reduce the randomness/risk by spreading out your investment across multiple stocks. That's just the central limit theorem. For the market as a whole, on a long enough timescale, the historical aggregate trends upwards, but is still effectively random.

> What the fuck are you investing in for retirement if not stocks?

I can be critical of something and still acknowledge the reality that I am effectively forced to engage with it. I generally invest in a few index funds to reduce the variance and mental overhead, but it's still there.

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In one way it's much worse than "mainstream" gambling: its value depends on society holding the shared delusion that stocks (both in general and yours in particular) are actually worth something. That leads some people to become incredibly invested in maintaining that delusion, since they know what's at stake for them. This thread could be considered an example of where that mentality leads.

And as you said yourself:

> The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.

Re: UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers

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Post by b800h »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #259
b800h wrote: post #94

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That's not ad-free. You have to put up with ads for a load of BBC programmes which will almost inevitably contain a slew of progressive messaging.

The BBC is ad free in the UK.

The BBC is free from adverts from people other than the BBC.

Notice I said: "ads for a load of BBC programmes"

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