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We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by _fat_santa »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #62
goosedragons wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are places that still let you download movies like iTunes. They are of course riddled in DRM so it's not much help...

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

I'm currently setting up a Plex in my home to play our families "most popular" movies and I genuinely want to buy these movies, pay for them, and just have them but I can't do that so I have to pirate them.

I wonder how many others are in the same camp as me, I used to be a pirate back when I was a teenager but now I can genuinely afford this stuff and always prefer to pay versus pirate, but in the case of home movies I just can't do that.

I think the studios will be very surprised if they just opened the floodgates and let folks pay for and download movies, because I think a large chunk of us are like me, only pirating because there's no other avenue to acquire the movie.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by dylan604 »

tavoe wrote: post #79
episteme wrote: post #71

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Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

Align the incentive with the actual work done? Eg - fundraise to cover the cost of producing the movie and paying the salaries of everyone involved, because physically making a movie costs money. Then give the mp4 away for free because copying a digital file costs nothing. Piracy is only a problem because companies are trying to charge money for copying a file, which is fundamentally free.

Fundraise does not mean what you think it means. Asking your mom for money to make a student film is not the same as making an actual film. People raise funds for movies from investors. Investors want their money back. Nobody goes to the theater any more, so how else are they going to pay back the investors if they can't sell the product they made. This isn't Uber just burning investors cash. Why does nobody expect to get free rides from Uber, yet expect free videos?

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by blendergeek »

billfruit wrote: post #70
vouaobrasil wrote: post #57

I wish there were a way to just pay for a movie on a site and download it as an mp4 in 1080P or 4K. I hate streaming because I only want to watch 1-2 movies per month and they are very specific (like a specific martial arts movie or action movie). Streaming interfaces often have DRM and horrible interfaces and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for something I'll rarely use. Don't understand the DRM because pirates ge…

YouTube does still allow to "buy"/rent movies one apiece.

Nowhere can one pay a fee and receive a legal digital copy of a movie. YouTube allows people to pay for the privilege of being allowed to stream a movie for and indefinite period of time. YouTube retains the right to revoke all movie "purchases" at any time.

GP is asking why we can't actually buy digital copies of the movies like we could with music in the iTunes era.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by codedokode »

The problems with streaming services:

- they do not allow anonymous usage (you need to provide a visa application worth amount of personal information)

- stupid geographical restrictions

- they tend to limit quality, both for copyright and traffic saving purposes

As an intermediate result, a generation of people is growing who got used to watching digitally compressed audio and video (social media, especially for mobile platforms, use even worse compression). And new Apple headphones seem to use lossy compression as well, so we have a codec compressing another codec's artifacts.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by msh »

episteme wrote: post #71
vouaobrasil wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

People can easily do that if they purchase a bluray, so the difference is not very big.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by dylan604 »

zild3d wrote: post #73
episteme wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

I used to borrow my friends' VHS tapes. Trying to stop people from sharing is barking up the wrong tree, just make it easy enough for people to do the right thing that sending a large file around and getting it to play on their TV seems like a pain in comparison.

Sharing a physical product is not even close to the same as sharing a digital file. If you share a book/VHS/DVD, that physical item is no longer usable by the original person until it is returned. A digital file shared means the both people now have a file for as long as they want it and now each can share as much as they want.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by bamboozled »

codedokode wrote: post #94

The problems with streaming services: - they do not allow anonymous usage (you need to provide a visa application worth amount of personal information) - stupid geographical restrictions - they tend to limit quality, both for copyright and traffic saving purposes As an intermediate result, a generation of people is growing who got used to watching digitally compressed audio and video (social media, especially for mob…

- You need to subscribe to ten different services rather than just having one subscription to see the thing you want to watch.

Before you just needed a DVD player

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by rob74 »

Stange that the article opens with a picture of the The Matrix DVD, but then doesn't mention it in the text. This was actually the first DVD I bought (even though back then I didn't have a DVD player, just a DVD drive for my PC) and spent hours exploring the extras. Looks like I wasn't the only one who was impressed: https://theextras.buzzsprout.com/1781599/episodes/9714540

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by [deleted] »

episteme wrote: post #71
vouaobrasil wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by rpdillon »

_fat_santa wrote: post #91
vouaobrasil wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

I'm currently setting up a Plex in my home to play our families "most popular" movies and I genuinely want to buy these movies, pay for them, and just have them but I can't do that so I have to pirate them. I wonder how many others are in the same camp as me, I used to be a pirate back when I was a teenager but now I can genuinely afford this stuff and always prefer to pay versus pirate, but in the case of home movie…

Totally agree. GOG for movies would get a lot of business from me!
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