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We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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There are places that still let you download movies like iTunes. They are of course riddled in DRM so it's not much help...

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

#72
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It seems to me that the extra features on DVD were originally part of the marketing benefits driving people to adopt the format because the studios preferred it to VHS because of CSS and region-locking. Then they found they had painted themselves into a corner making all these extra features that people came to expect, until finally streaming let them get back to “just the movie”.

VHS were dubbed… no need to do region locking.

Depends on where you live. In Greece, I don't think a single movie other than kids cartoons were ever dubbed on VHS. Everything was subbed. On the other hand, in Germany or Poland, almost everything was dubbed.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

#73

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yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

I used to borrow my friends' VHS tapes. Trying to stop people from sharing is barking up the wrong tree, just make it easy enough for people to do the right thing that sending a large file around and getting it to play on their TV seems like a pain in comparison.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

Same way that you stop them from sharing MP3 files: you don’t. Some people share them, but most don’t bother because there are convenient ways to pay for them, and those ways offer better value than scouring the internet for pirate downloads. So there is still a reason to hunt down pirate sites, as the copyright holder doesn’t want piracy to be too convenient, but locking down files with DRM ultimately just isn’t a great solution.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

#75

*Cinephiles took the DVD boom era for granted The reason it ended is because the general public doesn't care.

Yeah these articles are all written by people who owned hundreds of movies.

I was thinking about this. Normal people bought maybe one or two Disney movies a year? Now Disney Plus cashes in 20 eurodollars per month and they don't have to share it with anyone.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

Many games get their DRM removed from official distribution after a cracked copy is found circulating online. Sounds like that model would make sense for movies too.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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post #72
post #16

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VHS were dubbed… no need to do region locking.

Depends on where you live. In Greece, I don't think a single movie other than kids cartoons were ever dubbed on VHS. Everything was subbed. On the other hand, in Germany or Poland, almost everything was dubbed.

It makes no difference. The question is if a Greek customer would buy a subbed movie from Lithuania for example.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

Sounds great, how do you propose stopping people from sharing that mp4 with the world?

Align the incentive with the actual work done?

Eg - fundraise to cover the cost of producing the movie and paying the salaries of everyone involved, because physically making a movie costs money. Then give the mp4 away for free because copying a digital file costs nothing. Piracy is only a problem because companies are trying to charge money for copying a file, which is fundamentally free.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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There are places that still let you download movies like iTunes. They are of course riddled in DRM so it's not much help...

yeah...I just want to pay for a DRM-free copy so I can play it and own it forever. That's it. No streaming accoounts, no tracking, no plastic packaging, just the file in exchange for money. I paid for Sublime text that way and it's a great model.

I couldn't agree more. I use Bandcamp a lot to buy and download music in the form of DRM-free, lossless files, and GOG to buy and download DRM-free games. I wish this model was more widespread, and available for other types of media, movies and shows in particular.

Often the problem is misrepresented as "streaming vs. physical media", wrongly implying that streaming is the only means of purely digital distribution. However, it is actually a question of whether you actually own media vs. only renting them.

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