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> I suspect the billion dollar settlement will be overturned on appeal as being excessive. Why?
You have to prove damages.
Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion
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#102Probably needs to be settled before Trump gets in?
Why, so the outgoing government which lost the public vote can make the decision instead of the president elect ? Disclaimer, I think Trump is a buffoon, but I also think this kind of thinking is backwards.
The elected government isn't making this decision anyways, this is in a court in front of a judge (one previously appointed by the president-elect, no less).
Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion
#103Probably needs to be settled before Trump gets in?
United States Bankruptcy Judge Christopher M. López was appointed to the United States Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of Texas, effective August 14, 2019. Judge López was sworn in by United States Circuit Judge Gregg Costa on Wednesday, August 14, 2019.
Hmm.
Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion
#104This is kind of bullshit. The Sandy Hook families were a part of The Onion’s bid. They were clearly ok with it. The court knows it can’t sell it back to Jones or a proxy of, but this decision also allows Jones to continue as if he hadn’t sold. And I think that’s what they’re aiming for
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… are you seriously second-guessing what makes other people happy?
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#106It is clear that Jones and his relatives have moved money and assets around in order to shield them from the verdict. Now, money that should have been already given to the victims is being used to steal back the megaphone that caused harmed in the first place. The end effect will probably be even more subscribers and money for Jones which he will use with even less restraint since he knows there are no consequences.…
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> This is dangerously close to making the penalty the loss of his first amendment rights.
It’s fascinating (and worrying) how the people who cry the loudest about the first amendment are the ones who least understand it. The right to free speech doesn’t mean you can say literally anything without consequences. If you’re a deliberate liar who provably lies to profit and harm others, you can and should be punished.
I’m reminded of the Twitter engineer who said “Twitter wants to censor bullying and harassment, and the idea of free speech is that you can bully and harass people”. No dude, not it’s not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...
Re: Bankruptcy judge rejects sale of Infowars to The Onion
#107Probably needs to be settled before Trump gets in?
Can Trump pardon Jones? I thought pardons apply in criminal cases, not in civil cases like bankruptcy.
It's not about pardoning, it's about what US bankruptcy trustee thinks is ok or not ok. Had this happen under Trump administration, I would assume that the trustee would not even allow such a deal to go ahead in the first place.
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Oh won't someone rid me of this troublesome priest
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Jones was never technically tried for anything. He refused to participate in the trial in a meaningful manner and had a default judgment against him instead.
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> I suspect the billion dollar settlement will be overturned on appeal as being excessive
Not a lawyer, but that didn't seem to have happened?
Quote from this article: https://www.reuters.com/legal/appeals-court-upholds-nearly-1...
"A three-judge panel of the Connecticut Appellate Court found that a jury's October 2022 decision to award $965 million in damages plus attorneys fees and costs to families of the shooting's victims was not unreasonable given the mental anguish they suffered due to the lies by Jones about Sandy Hook."
They found fault with a smaller portion of the whole award, and even there not because it was found to be excessive: "the judges found fault only with a portion awarding $150 million in damages under a state unfair trade practices law, finding that should be thrown out because it did not properly apply to the facts of the case."